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  • protoolsnerd
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 788

    Sounding off on best CQB AR optic $500 or less

    Hey calgunners!!

    Just wanted to see what everyone liked out there. Red dots? Red dot with full reticle....single color, dif colors.... why?

    There are the every popular eotechs , aimpoint, burris...etc

    WHAT SAY YE?!!!
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    sigpic Aaron " The Gun Nerd "
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    protoolsnerd
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 788

    Just to add a bit to this, what about the Vortex Spark and Burris 332.....viable? they both seem to be great pieces for a heck of a lot less then aimpoint or eotech.
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    • #3
      alex45auto
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 987

      How about Leatherwood CMR????

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      • #4
        c483125117
        Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 246

        Eotech or Aimpoint.

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        • #5
          protoolsnerd
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 788

          First i've heard of it, looks awesome. Seems like a comparable product to the burris. NIce that you can change the magnification on it . Lets throw that one in the mix too. ONWARDDDD!!!
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          • #6
            djleisure
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2008
            • 4734

            Originally posted by alex45auto
            How about Leatherwood CMR????
            If you're throwing that into the mix, then you might as well throw in the Millet DMS-1!

            Out of the choices posted, strictly for CQB and short/mid-range engagement, either EOTech or Aimpoint CompM series. You kind of need to try both to see which one you really like. I have both and like them both for different applications - EOTech on AR pistol (CQB) - Aimpoint on Carbine (short/mid-range)

            Everything else listed is just a stepping stone to either one of these optics (and finally ACOGs). None of them are bad, but they aren't the "real" thing either and you'll know the real thing when you see and use it.
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            • #7
              GeoffLinder
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 2425

              You need to offer "Other" as a choice here too.

              Absolute best CQB sights you can have are the good ole' irons Seriously though, they always work, work fast, work well in any light you can see in, what more to ask?

              That said, I like a simple red dot sight with lot's of intensity and very little tubage and plastic crap around it. The old OKO, C-More's and JPoints all qualify here.

              Next most important feature is correct dot size. 6-8 MOA for shotgun or pistol, 2-4 MOA for carbine/rifle.

              Brightness and clarity of the dot is key, gotta' see it reliably in daylight. but can't blow-out on ya' in shade/shadow. JPoint is good here because it auto-adjusts according to ambient light so dot is always same apparent brightness.

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              • #8
                vintagearms
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2009
                • 6841

                Originally posted by GeoffLinder
                That said, I like a simple red dot sight with lot's of intensity and very little tubage and plastic crap around it. The old OKO,....


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                I had one of those years ago. For a range gun that doesn't get tossed around they worked great. Im kinda sorry I got rid of mine.

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                • #9
                  protoolsnerd
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 788

                  ya know i was going to offer other as a choice, but instead i figure people would use the comments as the other section...and BAM it worked.

                  This is awesome. I like getting a good discussion going. I love the eotech, they're just a bit pricey. If i were going eotech i'd probably get the 516 or xp2-0. i think i'm partial to more of a reticle as opposed to a red dot. I had a burris fastfire on an XD of mine and as much as i liked it .....i'm more precise with my iron sights. ( proving your point GeoffLinder )

                  I have mapgpul mbus sights which i use and will use to co-witness whatever optic i get. For my purposes , this is going to be used for carbine classes and shorter range target and course shooting. So fast target acquisition and ability to adapt to differing light conditions .

                  I must admit the burris 332 is looking very appealing. But then again that vortex looks like a really nice peace for very little cash. ( i will admit , it does look a little odd and small, but you can't argue with results ) At the $300 ish price range the burris, and that leatherwood look like you get serious bang for the buck. Being that i'm not going to be using this in a professional setting over seas or in a law enforcement capacity , my standards can be a bit more lax
                  Last edited by protoolsnerd; 03-29-2011, 12:49 AM.
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                  • #10
                    protoolsnerd
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 788

                    Wow that leatherwood is pretty impressive .... been watching and reading up on it.....much head scratching to do
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                    • #11
                      thebloodsonthewall
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 1143

                      I know an ACOG is over $500 but that is my vote. I had an Aimpoint for a few months and then I got my ACOG. The magnification makes all the difference. I can see close in targets still and it makes the longer range shots easier. It is also great for looking at potential threats without having to carry bino's.

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                      • #12
                        protoolsnerd
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 788

                        Yeah, as awesome as an acog would be , hell it's almost the price of my gun!. I think i'm going to give the leatherwood CMR a try. For everything you get it seems to have no equal. I've watched and read many many reviews and they're all the same. Great optic , great optic, great optic. I hope it will be able to used both eyes open for super close quarters not unlike a non-magnified sight ( eotech , aimpoint ) Hell if it doesn't its worth getting that vortex spark for that and this for everything else. Heck for the price of one eotech you can own pretty much both of those!
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                        NRA Cert. Pistol & Rifle Instructor / RSO
                        Instructor , Amorer , Class III enthusiast and part time builder

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                        • #13
                          shiv
                          Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 247

                          Eotech: amazing battery life, unlimited eye relief, parallax-free, submersible, both eyes open shooting, rugged, warranty, made in USA, NV compatible, and as far as I know it's the only one with a 1moa dot reticle. What more do you need?

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                          • #14
                            Justintoxicated
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 3836

                            ACOG, I wish I had one instead of my eotech / magnifier FTS...

                            I much prefer the eotech over the aimpoint reticle. The aimpoint is just like every other red dot sight I have ever used only better quality.

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                            • #15
                              HK35
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 746

                              Originally posted by Justintoxicated
                              ACOG, I wish I had one instead of my eotech / magnifier FTS...
                              Originally posted by thebloodsonthewall
                              I know an ACOG is over $500 but that is my vote. I had an Aimpoint for a few months and then I got my ACOG. The magnification makes all the difference. I can see close in targets still and it makes the longer range shots easier. It is also great for looking at potential threats without having to carry bino's.
                              I agree, I prefer my ACOG much more than my red dot sights (EOTech XPS-3 which I sold for an Aimpoint PRO). But it's not fair to compare red dots to an ACOG as red dots are really made for quick target acquisition at close range.
                              Last edited by HK35; 03-31-2011, 3:53 PM.

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