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  • hotloogy
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 648

    red dot or scope for 100yds?

    im getting an AR soon and i like to shoot at the 100 yrd targets. i also like the idea of having a red dot for "JUST IN CASE STUFF". im thinking i could pull off the scope and use the iron sights for close range if i had to or i saw a set up with a scope and a little red dot on top of that. i dont have much money so the cheapest route is best for now.
  • #2
    Joe
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2006
    • 5730

    If its mostly going to be for target shooting at 100 yards or further, a scope is a better choice than a red dot. How much exactly are you looking to spend?

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    • #3
      hotloogy
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 648

      Originally posted by Joe
      If its mostly going to be for target shooting at 100 yards or further, a scope is a better choice than a red dot. How much exactly are you looking to spend?
      100-200 max i've never even shot an AR before so i dont even know whats best to do with one. i only have a shooting range to go to with only 50 and 100yrd targets. to me a red dot is really cool but i dont know how i would be able to use one.

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      • #4
        Hk996
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 659

        I know its out of your range.... but the acog with red dot would be perfect for you! I like using the 4x optics for target shooting and the red dot is zero'd for about 50yrds.

        I've used my eotech at 100yrds.... and if you are only shooting steel then that would be fine but it is still not the same as having some mag.
        kevin.

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        • #5
          bubbapug1
          Calguns Addict
          • Nov 2008
          • 7958

          acog or a scope, no red dot is good to 100 yards. They would cover up a 4" target at best, at worst more like an 8" target.
          I love America for the rights and freedoms we used to have.

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          • #6
            wheels
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 2292

            I haven't used it myself but a calguns guy has a decent looking setup that may be worth looking at...believe it's a 4x acog clone with a red dot on top...

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            • #7
              scfast
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 691

              Originally posted by bubbapug1
              acog or a scope, no red dot is good to 100 yards. They would cover up a 4" target at best, at worst more like an 8" target.
              HUH?I have made accurate hits at 200-300yrds on a torso target with a 4moa dot.But if you obscure your targets behind a jersey barrier that's a different story.Best of both worlds a 1-4x optic.
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              • #8
                stormy_clothing
                Banned
                • Dec 2008
                • 2809

                Buy a cheap ACOG knockoff at the gun show. Try it out I've used the basic ones with lock-tite and they work great for those ranges.

                If it gives you a good impression buy a legit one or dont, BSA makes the AR15 specific stealth tactical red dot, light and laser combo for 130 ish - got one f/s if interested.



                The light and laser is removable or you can put them on your rails ect

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                • #9
                  ChrisTKHarris
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 4203

                  How about a red dot with a magnifier?
                  Don't let the name fool you...

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                  • #10
                    Omega13device
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 1943

                    Originally posted by bubbapug1
                    acog or a scope, no red dot is good to 100 yards. They would cover up a 4" target at best, at worst more like an 8" target.
                    That's a myth.

                    A good marksman can easily do a 1" group at 100 yards with either a 4 MOA Aimpoint or standard iron sights (front sight post is 6 MOA). It's all about consistency and technique, not the size of the front sight or dot.

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                    • #11
                      joelogic
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2008
                      • 6593

                      100yds at a bench? Just use irons. Its better to learn with them anyway. If you have to shoot a red dot get a $20 tasco, hold zero just fine on a .223.
                      Micro/Mini Reflex Red Dot Sight Mount for the M1, M1a/M14 platform

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                      • #12
                        ZombieHunter90
                        Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 106

                        I'd say to pick up a Primary Arms red-dot and magnifier.

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                        • #13
                          Koolpsych
                          Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 209

                          Originally posted by Omega13device
                          That's a myth.

                          A good marksman can easily do a 1" group at 100 yards with either a 4 MOA Aimpoint or standard iron sights (front sight post is 6 MOA). It's all about consistency and technique, not the size of the front sight or dot.
                          Agreed. I am an average if not on the poorer side of accuracy and I can still shoot 4 moa or less with my EoTech517 at 100 yrds. However, if you are going to be shooting for pure accuracy I would go towards a scope, otherwise red dots are good out to 300 yrds.

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                          • #14
                            bubbapug1
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 7958

                            OK, well, maybe you can do tight groups with a red dot, but I will gladly bet on my acog agaisnt a zero power 4 moa red dot or iron sights for accuracy.

                            How about $25 dollars a round for 20 rounds at 200 yards?

                            We will place out twenty target at 200 yards. the target bullseye will be 3" wide - black, on white paper. Military rounds. Since my eyes are bad I will have a younger buddy of mine shoot my rifle, you shoot your own. Closest to the middle of the bull on each target wins $20.00 on that target.

                            The gun must be a service rifle A2 which could be used in competition for service rifle class.

                            Any takers from this thread posted above this post? Omega??? Kool??? I'm calling you out on this one. Here is your chance for some easy money.

                            A scope with crosshairs is even better to placing a shot exactly where you want. At 100 yards a zero magnification red dot is no match for a 4 power scope...if it was you would see more folks using red dots on match rifles...I haven't seen many myself being used in meets.
                            Last edited by bubbapug1; 04-30-2010, 12:21 AM. Reason: spelling - clarified rules
                            I love America for the rights and freedoms we used to have.

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                            • #15
                              damndave
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 10858

                              I have a Aimpoint Comp M4 and PA 3x magnifier for sale if you are interested.

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