Kel tec su16

[mif_slim]

Wow, I didn't know this. Could you elaorate?

The polymer flexes so since the barrel and the chamber is mounted on the reciever if you pressure on the barrel it will flex the reciever and barrel causing the poi to change. You're scope will still be poa but the barrel will be slightly bent chaning the poi

[3GunFunShooter]

With any rifle, especially the Kel-Tec, if you rest the gun where, any force is put on the barrel it will change the point of impact from your orginial point of aim when you sighted the rifle in. This is why you read about the AR's having a free float hand guard. If you rest the gun on the free float tube you will not change POI. With any rifle you want to barrel not to be in contact with the stock. You want it to be floating free. Kel-Tec with it plastic receiver and thin barrel and weak connection point it will flex more than most rifles.
Use your mag to rest the gun on when shooting. This way force of the gun will be transfered from the mag to the receiver, and you scope is right above the mag. No flex, no change in POI from POA.

[himurax13]

Wow, I had no idea. No wonder I had a heck of a time sighting my scope in. So basically don't use a bipod or hold the foregrip while shooting?

[j_gilli]

thats good info considering i just bought a harris bi pod lol. O WELL it will look cool at least!

[mif_slim]

Wow, I had no idea. No wonder I had a heck of a time sighting my scope in. So basically don't use a bipod or hold the foregrip while shooting?

Use the mag well for sight in. The su will never be a "true" free float because of it's design but antyhing that will reduce the chance of pressure on the barrel will help poi/poa.

[j_gilli]

ok good to know. thanks

[himurax13]

Okay, just so I am clear. I grip the magwell or rest the bottom of the mag during sight in and then after that, using a bipod or holding the foregrip will be fine?

[j_gilli]

mif slim, i have not found a company UTR but i did find UTG. If you have a minute can you find the exact forend you bought and post the link.

[3GunFunShooter]

No, you can never use the bipod to be accurate. You can hold the forend, for shooting standing or sitting, but from a rest or prone, always use the mag to set the gun on. The bipod on a Kel-Tec is junk, not worth it, don't use it, if you want to make accurate shots.

[mif_slim]

mif slim, i have not found a company UTR but i did find UTG. If you have a minute can you find the exact forend you bought and post the link.

Its UTG. My bad. I was on my iphone when I PM you, Those will work the same, just as long as its NOT for shotguns because the clamp will be too big for that dinky barrel. (I will try to find the link, but its been about 5 years since my mod...)

For himurax, you can use the foreend to grip and shoot, just dont put bending pressure on it. The bi-pod will change your POA by as much as 2 inches at 50 yards. Thats a whoppin 4 inch at 100 yards meaning a spine shot or a complete miss on a average size deer. Other then that, you can shoot off-hand using the fore end and get same POI/POA as when sighting in using the magwell on a rest/bags.

[himurax13]

No, you can never use the bipod to be accurate. You can hold the forend, for shooting standing or sitting, but from a rest or prone, always use the mag to set the gun on. The bipod on a Kel-Tec is junk, not worth it, don't use it, if you want to make accurate shots.

I am using a Harris Bipod on the Aftermarket Kel Tec Foregrip with Picattany Rails. Will that change my POA, POI if I had used the Magwell for adjusting my sights?

So if I put some Ergo Grips on the rails on my Keltec Foregrip and I use my reaction hand tl grip it while shooting, will that change my POA, POI if I had used the Magwell for adjusting my sights?

[mif_slim]

The part circle in red is the most important. You can mount whatever you want on the barrel, just dont put pressure on it. a Bi-pod will put pressure on the barrel bending it and where the red circle is up causing change of POI.



Holding the SU similar to this will help its POI/POA:

[j_gilli]

That would be great if you find that link. I just dont want to buy something and have it not work.

[TheWolf]

hey himurax13

is the shorter aluminum forend with the vertical grip on that su-16 the one that is made for the plr-16?

[himurax13]

hey himurax13

is the shorter aluminum forend with the vertical grip on that su-16 the one that is made for the plr-16?

Do you have a picture?