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  • redbull addict
    Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 196

    Eotech MOA dots blurry to me

    Hi,

    I visited a dealer yesterday and planned on buying a red dot site. After debating between several based on specs, I began looking seriously at the Eotech's. Sadly the dealer only had the XPS2-2 with the two MOA aiming dots. I've read that the circle will look blurry but the dots looked blurry to me also. They looked like like they were made up of smaller dots.

    The salesman said that it was my eyes and I needed to get used to it but I wasn't ready to hand over the cash.

    Can anyone confirm or explain to me what I should be seeing?

    Thanks!
  • #2
    ke6guj
    Moderator
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Nov 2003
    • 23725

    From the EoTech FAQ:

    Why is my center dot not round?
    Not everyone sees the center dot as a circle or sphere. If your dot does not appear to be perfectly round, the distortion may be caused by the way that your eye perceives the dot, rather than by some mechanical defect. Due to differences in the lenses in different individuals' eyes, round objects that subtend areas near 3 minutes of angle may appear distorted in a variety of ways depending on the individual and other environmental influences. Some may see the center dot like a hub of a bicycle wheel with spokes. If you see this in your sight, look closely at the dot and rotate the sight. If the spokes do not move, it is just how your eye perceives this dot. You can dim the sight and this may be eliminated.

    My circle is fuzzy/hazy. Why is this?
    That question about our reticle is common. What people usually see on-line or in advertisements are graphic representations of the reticle. What you are seeing is likely normal. The outer circle of the reticle is made up of hundreds of pixels (small dots that form together to make a larger image). This pixilation is key to being able to see the hologram properly, and is inherent in the technology. You should see the center dot as a single MOA.

    A couple things might help make the image appear more distinct:

    ■If you see the image blurry, fuzzy, distorted, having a double image, or having a 'starburst' effect, this usually means the brightness intensity level is up too high for the lighting conditions you're using it in. Dim down the brightness until the reticle is slightly see-through. The outer circle is designed as your reference to center, and acts similar to a ghost ring.
    ■The reticle is projected out to your target plane. If you pick up a target that is very close (like a photo on the wall), your eyes might not focus properly on the image. Pick up sight pictures 25 to 30 yards out until you become accustomed to the sight. Try them at different eye reliefs, and certainly try these things once the sight is mounted on a weapon.
    ■If you require corrective lenses (glasses or contacts) to see things clearly at a distance, you will need them to see the reticle clearly. Remember, the reticle is actually projected out to your target plane, so you will see it like anything else at that distance. Also, if you have astigmatism or use bifocals, you may see the image less distinctly.
    ■Use the sight outdoors, and if possible at the range. Actually acquiring targets with the sight will help your eyes focus properly on the reticle.
    Jack



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    • #3
      joelogic
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2008
      • 6593

      Confirmed, explaination above.
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      • #4
        ar15barrels
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        • Jan 2006
        • 57159

        The simple answer is that you should NOT focus on the dot.
        You should focus on the TARGET.

        When you look at the dot, you see it's resolution.
        When you look at the target, the dot becomes nice and round.
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        • #5
          rabagley
          Calguns Addict
          • Apr 2008
          • 7180

          Originally posted by redbull addict
          I've read that the circle will look blurry but the dots looked blurry to me also. They looked like like they were made up of smaller dots.
          That's called "laser speckle" and it's 100% expected for a hologram projection. In fact, seeing the speckles is one way to confirm that you're looking at an authentic Eotech, since the fakes only use reflective projection.
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          • #6
            djleisure
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2008
            • 4734

            Also, some people with astigmatism have reported a "double" or "fuzzy" image - could that be your case? There really isn't a solution for it if that's the case, unfortunately...
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            • #7
              rabagley
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2008
              • 7180

              Prescription shooting glasses or LASIK. I did LASIK and love the results.
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              • #8
                redbull addict
                Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 196

                thanks for the explanation guys! That puts my mind at ease.

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                • #9
                  bear
                  Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 411

                  Course it might not hurt to cut back on the Red Bull a little...

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                  • #10
                    redbull addict
                    Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 196

                    no can do....

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                    • #11
                      18sam2011
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 777

                      Astigmatism will do it to. That's what I have and I have to wear my glasses in order for my eotech reticle to not be blurry.

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                      • #12
                        missiondude
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2008
                        • 1646

                        If you use "reading" glasses, and have corrective lenses in your shooting glasses so that you can see the front sight on your handgun, you will not be able to focus on the target properly and the EOtech will appear blured. I use uncorrected lenses when shooting the EOtech, and it comes in quite clear. Use the minimum brightness that works in your ambient lighting to help keep the image clear.
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