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  • oops
    Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 441

    nitrogen filled scope?

    what is the purpose of the nitrogen in the scope? also I'm flying home tomorrow from texas and I just bought a Super sniper scope. I have to check it and was wondering if the cargo bay isn't pressurized will it hurt my scope as I'm not sure if there are seals that can rupture
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    deez
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 1361

    I believe the nitrogen is added to ensure that the inside of the scope is free from moisture.

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    • #3
      tamalpias
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 1980

      It is an inert gas that also prevents your scope from fogging up on the inside due to temperature and humidity changes.

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        Fjold
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        • Oct 2005
        • 22902

        It is fine in the cargo hold. Mine have flown to Alaska, Africa, Texas, etc. with never a problem.
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          darksands
          Senior Member
          • May 2008
          • 710

          Nitrogen also does not expand and contract as much in temperature change. Scopes should be airtight so contracting and expanding gases can cause changes in scopes.
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            oops
            Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 441

            thanks

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              Stringer
              Member
              • May 2009
              • 326

              Originally posted by darksands
              Nitrogen also does not expand and contract as much in temperature change. Scopes should be airtight so contracting and expanding gases can cause changes in scopes.
              I teach chemistry so I can't let this go on any further.

              Nitrogen follows the ideal gas law (PV=nRT) as do all other gases. This means all gases expand and contract identically with temperature and pressure. Deviations from this law can occur on planet Earth, but at conditions extreme enough that you won't be worried about your scope!

              Nitrogen is the cheapest pure gas to produce, since air is about 80% nitrogen. It is, for our intents and purposes, inert (non-reactive). However, nitrogen is not as inert as noble gases like helium, neon, argon, and krypton. Nitrogen does react with oxygen at high temperature, but again, that's scope-melting temperature.

              Noble gases are expensive. Also, helium and neon--the cheapest ones--are smaller than nitrogen, which creates a problem with diffusivity (the tendency to diffuse or leak). Smaller gases can leak faster than larger gases, which is probably what darksands was trying to explain. It's like how some farts travel across the room real quick, while others kind of linger in one area. Helium is like the former, and nitrogen is more like a heavy, greasy fart.

              Nothing is truly "airtight," so using a bigger, less diffusive gas will slow leakage and the resulting intake of moisture and oxygen. This means that for long-term scope protection, helium would be horrible. Neon and nitrogen are comparable, but the nod goes to nitrogen.

              Expensive scope makers will often use argon and/or krypton to fill their scopes. Both are much less diffusive than nitrogen, and according to the laws of physics, should provide the most years of protection. I say "should provide" because the rate of leakage probably depends on construction and assembly standards just as much, if not more, than the type of inert gas used for manufacture.

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              • #9
                minuteman
                Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 402

                Thanks Mr. Wizard. That explained everything.

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                • #10
                  Stringer
                  Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 326

                  Don't mention it.

                  And if it didn't violate the TOS, I could explain to you how babies are really made.

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                  • #11
                    Bigballaizm
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 3109

                    Originally posted by Stringer
                    I teach chemistry so I can't let this go on any further.
                    Smaller gases can leak faster than larger gases... It's like how some farts travel across the room real quick, while others kind of linger in one area. Helium is like the former, and nitrogen is more like a heavy, greasy fart.
                    Nice analogy String! Your a good teacher....
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                    • #12
                      RugerNo1
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 1644

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                      • #13
                        oops
                        Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 441

                        well I wish I would have known all this before I got home... crap

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                        • #14
                          duckman1
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                          • Aug 2009
                          • 3687

                          Wow my head hurts now. Thank you!

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