Entry level rifle scope

[newStar]

[Cowboy T]

Any Leupold in 2-7x33 would be good. Same with a Redfield Revolution, though you'd be looking at used--er, "Pre-Owned" () in the case of the Redfield. Nice thing about these is they're made in the USA instead of Red China.

[sghart]

I have both and I would not hesitate to recommend the Vortex 2-7X. I put one on my Ruger Predator 308 and it is terrific. I bought a second one for my son's Ruger in 7.62X39.

The UTG is a good scope but has very limited eye relief so it may or may not work for your application.

[theLBC]

what kind of shooting are you going to do?
if you will be shooting things up close, fixed parallax at 100 yards might not be ideal and so maybe the utg would work better in that case.

since i don't have any direct experience with these, you might call doug at cameralandny.com and tell him what you're doing and your budget and let him suggest some options. at least he won't suggest something he knows people don't like much.

[n8vrmind]

If you don't need variable zoom, consider SWFA fixed power scopes... reasonably priced... I believe they are made in Japan.

[Cowboy T]

what kind of shooting are you going to do?
if you will be shooting things up close, fixed parallax at 100 yards might not be ideal and so maybe the utg would work better in that case.

since i don't have any direct experience with these, you might call doug at cameralandny.com and tell him what you're doing and your budget and let him suggest some options. at least he won't suggest something he knows people don't like much.

He's going to shoot .22LR. Fixed parallax at 100 yards is just fine for .22LR distances. Actually, fixed parallax isn't a problem at all as long as the shooter maintains a proper cheek weld.

[newStar]

I have both and I would not hesitate to recommend the Vortex 2-7X. I put one on my Ruger Predator 308 and it is terrific. I bought a second one for my son's Ruger in 7.62X39.

The UTG is a good scope but has very limited eye relief so it may or may not work for your application.

Thanks for the information. I searched the Internet and found Vortex 2-7X has 3.9 inches eye relief, but not one for UTG. When you say UTG has limited sys relief, I guess it much be shorter than 3.9. Correct?

I am very new to the scope but the eye relief seems to be an important feature to me. I remember I first looked (and only time tried) my friend's refile scope and was almost impossible to see the target, all dark or see half of the image

I will do more research to see if I can find more on UTG eye relief.

Thanks

[newStar]

what kind of shooting are you going to do?
if you will be shooting things up close, fixed parallax at 100 yards might not be ideal and so maybe the utg would work better in that case.

since i don't have any direct experience with these, you might call doug at cameralandny.com and tell him what you're doing and your budget and let him suggest some options. at least he won't suggest something he knows people don't like much.

Yes, I am planning to put it on a .22 rifle for target shooting.

Sorry if the question is a silly one - does the fixed parallax at 100 yard meaning only can see target clearly at 100 yard? In my case, I may shoot at 25, 50 or 100 yard, and need to see target at these distance.

I will try cameralandny.com.

Thanks again.

[newStar]

He's going to shoot .22LR. Fixed parallax at 100 yards is just fine for .22LR distances. Actually, fixed parallax isn't a problem at all as long as the shooter maintains a proper cheek weld.

Thanks for the information. but new to rifle scope and like to know if the parallax fixed at 100 yard, can I still see my target at 50 yard clearly? Thanks

[newStar]

Any Leupold in 2-7x33 would be good. Same with a Redfield Revolution, though you'd be looking at used--er, "Pre-Owned" () in the case of the Redfield. Nice thing about these is they're made in the USA instead of Red China.

Searched Redfield Revolution but all out of stock.

[newStar]

I have both and I would not hesitate to recommend the Vortex 2-7X. I put one on my Ruger Predator 308 and it is terrific. I bought a second one for my son's Ruger in 7.62X39.

The UTG is a good scope but has very limited eye relief so it may or may not work for your application.

Searched eye relief for UTG and all say "Most Accommodating Eye Relief". Not sure what that means?

[Updated] searched again and found some information from OP says its eye relief is 3.2 - 4.2 in: https://www.opticsplanet.com/v/scp-m...2-cqb-bug.html. Is that what you got from yours?

[FeuerFrei]

Since you're new to scopes you'll find this 101 info useful to explain terms and the usefulness/benefit of a given feature/s. Otherwise it's a coin flip.

https://scopesfield.com/choose-the-best-rifle-scope/

[JagerDog]

He's going to shoot .22LR. Fixed parallax at 100 yards is just fine for .22LR distances. Actually, fixed parallax isn't a problem at all as long as the shooter maintains a proper cheek weld.

Thanks for the information. I searched the Internet and found Vortex 2-7X has 3.9 inches eye relief, but not one for UTG. When you say UTG has limited sys relief, I guess it much be shorter than 3.9. Correct?

I am very new to the scope but the eye relief seems to be an important feature to me. I remember I first looked (and only time tried) my friend's refile scope and was almost impossible to see the target, all dark or see half of the image

I will do more research to see if I can find more on UTG eye relief.

Thanks

IME rimfire scopes are parallax for 50-60 yards. 100 can be tough at 25 yards. JMO

There's eye relief and there's eyebox. Eye relief is distance of your eye from the scope for optimum view. This becomes more important with heavy recoiling rifles so you don't get scope bite. Whereas a generous eyebox becomes less critical that you're at optimum (wider sweet spot). What you explained is a non-generous eyebox.

Unfortunately it's not typically a spec given. Better scopes tend to have more generous eyeboxes. Leupolds tend rather generous across the range even their "value" scopes. I've been pretty impressed with Vortex but haven't tried what's on your radar. TMK Vortex is Phillipines with perhaps some of their upper end models using Japanese glass. Leupold is USA, though components can be "globally sourced".

IIRC my Leupold rimfire on my Marlin 39 is parallax free at 60 yards and has fine crosshairs (which can be desirable for .22LR). I repurposed a VX2 on my 10/22 which is parallax free at 100 and it's a bit muddy at 25 yards.

[newStar]

IME rimfire scopes are parallax for 50-60 yards. 100 can be tough at 25 yards. JMO

There's eye relief and there's eyebox. Eye relief is distance of your eye from the scope for optimum view. This becomes more important with heavy recoiling rifles so you don't get scope bite. Whereas a generous eyebox becomes less critical that you're at optimum (wider sweet spot). What you explained is a non-generous eyebox.

Unfortunately it's not typically a spec given. Better scopes tend to have more generous eyeboxes. Leupolds tend rather generous across the range even their "value" scopes. I've been pretty impressed with Vortex but haven't tried what's on your radar. TMK Vortex is Phillipines with perhaps some of their upper end models using Japanese glass. Leupold is USA, though components can be "globally sourced".

IIRC my Leupold rimfire on my Marlin 39 is parallax free at 60 yards and has fine crosshairs (which can be desirable for .22LR). I repurposed a VX2 on my 10/22 which is parallax free at 100 and it's a bit muddy at 25 yards.

Thanks and good to know the eyebox. So eyebox is not normally listed as a spec for a scope, and may only be experienced once you get them. Is your Vortex is a Vortex Crossfire II model? Thanks

[newStar]

Since you're new to scopes you'll find this 101 info useful to explain terms and the usefulness/benefit of a given feature/s. Otherwise it's a coin flip.

https://scopesfield.com/choose-the-best-rifle-scope/

Studying it now. Thanks.