Falcon Menace Scopes

[bombadillo]

For the money, are there any better options and how is the glass on these things. I've never seen one to be able to look through and compare it to others. How are they at their highest magnification. I figure I could buy a nice bushnell 3200 elite for the price, so what would be the benefit? Not trying to smack talk it, but what would make me want to buy this versus that?

[RobG]

For the money, are there any better options and how is the glass on these things. I've never seen one to be able to look through and compare it to others. How are they at their highest magnification. I figure I could buy a nice bushnell 3200 elite for the price, so what would be the benefit? Not trying to smack talk it, but what would make me want to buy this versus that?

I had one that I sold. I now have a Vortex Viper (from Scott at Liberty).
The Viper has clearer glass, solid tactile/audible clicks, the knobs and hash marks line up, has a one piece tube, does not "haze" the edges at full mag., and is easily replaced/repaired by Vortex and/or Scott if ever needed. Scott claims to have never had one returned.

The Menace wasn't bad but, the Viper is better IMO. I bought mine from RWS as a demo unit. Robert is a great guy (built my rifle, too) and you should have no issue warranty wise if you buy from him.

[MAX100]

The Vortex Viper is a well made scope and probably does have much better glass than the Falcon but it's a Second Focal Plain scope. There is nothing wrong with SFP scope because it fits the needs of most shooters.

The reason why many choose to go with the Falcon is because it's a good low cost entry level First Focal Plain scope. The reviews done on the Falcon scopes have been favorable. On a FFP scope the reticle gets larger as the image size increases. This can be seen in the Famous Maker scope pictures above. This makes it easier to do range estimations and hold overs because the values of the reticle don't change with magnification changes. On a SFP scope the values of the reticle are only true on a set magnification.

Those that are just going to be doing target shooting at set ranges don't need a FFP scope.

There are advantages and disadvantages to both FFP & SPF scopes but I won't go into them. There is plenty of info on the net on this topic.


GC

[tmushy]

Does Leupold make Vortex scopes because their sites are verrrry similar


Also I dont know what happened with Falcon their site has gone down. I think maybe they are redesigning

[FMJBT]

FMJBT Question!

What do the turret clicks feel like on the FM scope, are they audible and sharp?


GC

The adjustments are what I would call "acceptable" on the FM Optics scopes. Tactile feel is decent enough, but thick winter gloves will probably make it difficult to feel. Definitely not "mushy", but could use some improvement. They are pretty audible, I had no problem hearing the clicks out on the range while wearing hearing protection. The feel pretty solid overall, with very little backlash. The clicks line up nicely with the hash marks on the knobs as well. For the money, I'm having a hard time finding a fault with these scopes. I've gradually started replacing most of my long range optics with them, including my workhorse Bushnell 3200 10X mil dot scopes.

[5150Marcelo]

So wheres Scotty? Maybe he could give us his 2 cents between the Vortex Viper and the Falcon Menace.
Scotty, where you at brotha????