Surefire guys, which weapon light- the 6p, 6p LED or G2 ?

[Electric Factory]

Am looking at the Viking Tactics/ Surefire package deals for an inexpensive weapon mounted light option. Surefire guys, which do I want between these two- the Surefire 6p, 6p LED or G2 ?

[stevie]

While I used a Larue mount, it holds a 6p with Malkoff M60.

My old set up was a M900 A/B and still using a M962 with ARMS mount on another carbine.

[Electric Factory]

While I used a Larue mount, it holds a 6p with Malkoff M60.

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How do you like the drop-in Malkoff M60 ? Required upgrade for the 6p ?

[Jicko]

G2LED. Still one of a fav.

[Electric Factory]

Can anyone explain the layman's differences between the 6p LED and G2 LED ?

[stevie]

The Malkoff is a great drop in. It's a true drop in, nothing else required.

[stevie]

Can anyone explain the layman's differences between the 6p LED and G2 LED ?

The G2 uses a polymer body while the 6p is aluminum. I believe the LED is the same between the two, P60L.

[Shawn L]

Get the regular 6P from ebay and then get the Malkoff M60

[DRM6000]

i've been thinking about starting a thread along the same lines. how do you mount and use a g2 or 6p on an ar? i don't want to use a forward vert. grip.

[maxicon]

Choices, choices.

The plastic G2 is more comfortable in cold weather, doesn't get banged up as much when you drop it, and is slightly lighter. The metal 6P conducts the heat away from the LED better, but the G2L has a metal bezel, so you get most of the benefit from that. This becomes more important as the output gets brighter.

Also, the 6P is a standard 1" tube, and you have a lot of mounting options if you want to change it later. The G2 is slightly larger, and won't fit many popular mounts, though there are multiple mounts that work fine with it.

Both of them come with a twisty tailcap unless you get the 6P Defender, which has a clickie. I don't like twisties for weaponlights, and a clickie replacement like the Z59 will cost $30-40.

The P60L is an OK LED module, but is a little blue for my tastes, and doesn't have a whole lot of throw, if that matters. It's a good brightness for indoor use, though many like more lumens, and it won't be that great for outdoor use. It also isn't that well regulated and doesn't have great runtime (though much better than the incandescent).

The Malkoff is much better across the board than the P60L - better color, better runtime at the same output, more output choices, and a nice mix of throw and spill. Malkoffs are available in a wide range of outputs, and my favorite indoor light replacement is the M60L, which is brighter than the M60LL or P60L, but won't wipe out your night vision as quickly as the M60. The M60's great if you need over 200 lumens, but I quit using mine for indoor use.

I actually like the Fenix TK11 better for value - it's got selectable 60 and 235 lumens in an easy user interface, is all metal, very sturdy, and comes with a clicky tailcap. I've been using it on a 12 gauge and it's held up very well so far.

If you want to stick with SF, a 6P with a Malkoff and a Z59 tailcap would be my first choice. There's no point buying the 6PL if you're going to use a Malkoff. The P60 drop-ins aren't selling much at all, and the P60Ls are selling used for $25-30.

If you want the plastic barrel, you'll have to get the G2L to get the metal bezel with it.

[maxicon]

i've been thinking about starting a thread along the same lines. how do you mount and use a g2 or 6p on an ar? i don't want to use a forward vert. grip.

One big question is whether you've got a railed handguard or not. There are some good options for mounting on the front sight or the regular handguard if you don't. Some are specifically light mounts, like the Elzetta, others are rails that you can mount stuff to.

If you don't mind spending a lot, LaRue makes some good QR mounts. The Viking Tactics VTAC offset mount shown in Electric Factory's post is a great starter mount - strong, inexpensive, flexible, and easy to set up. It's hard to go wrong with it to figure out what you like, and they're easy to resell if you go with something else.

[DRM6000]

i don't have a railed handguard on the rifle i want to mount a light on. i have a midwest industries sight tower railed accessory adapter that i mount a streamlight m3 to. the light is mounted at the 3 o'clock position. i was hoping to keep using the same mount since i don't want to spend the money on a new handguard yet.

if i do mount a more traditional flashlight, how would i activate the switch? thumb, knuckle or ?

One big question is whether you've got a railed handguard or not. There are some good options for mounting on the front sight or the regular handguard if you don't. Some are specifically light mounts, like the Elzetta, others are rails that you can mount stuff to.

If you don't mind spending a lot, LaRue makes some good QR mounts. The Viking Tactics VTAC offset mount shown in Electric Factory's post is a great starter mount - strong, inexpensive, flexible, and easy to set up. It's hard to go wrong with it to figure out what you like, and they're easy to resell if you go with something else.

[Electric Factory]

Choices, choices.

I actually like the Fenix TK11 better for value - it's got selectable 60 and 235 lumens in an easy user interface, is all metal, very sturdy, and comes with a clicky tailcap. I've been using it on a 12 gauge and it's held up very well so far.

Maxicon,
EXCELLENT post full of good information. Question; what mount[s] would you suggest if I wanted to go with the Fenix TK11 ? I'd be mounting it on an AR/ rail and would just as soon not spend a fortune on the mount. Would the Viking Tactics VTAC work ?
And what's the difference between the TK11 and the TK10 ?

[Mac Attack]

I have a old 6P with a Surefire pig tail mounted in a knights Armament mount and it is enough light for me. I did a low light/ night class and the light was nearly blinding compared to some of the lites. Fresh batteries helped out

[Fuzzy5]

My sis gave me a Surefire gift certificate a few years back and I bought several expensive lights as well as a G2 just because it was so cheap. My favorite overall is the L1, but among my tactical lights that take two CR123 cells, the G2 has become my go-to light. I love not having to worry about denting aluminum or scratching anodizing and it feels great in the hand.

I upgraded my G2 with a Q5 Cree LED module from Dealextreme.com for a little over 10 bucks and the overall package is extremely impressive for the money. It's significantly brighter than the G2L, and though it has less runtime, it's more suitable as a combat light. Plus, it runs cool enough to leave on indefinitely without fear of damage.