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  • prestige
    Member
    • Apr 2019
    • 163

    Problem with Aimpoint Micro T-2

    I just received my first red dot - Aimpoint Micro T-2. I think it is defective but I want to double check.

    The problem is what I see is not red dot at all. The best way to describe what I see is a bunch of lines in all directions and hollow areas inside - like a Chinese symbol. I asked a few people around me none of whom wear glasses and we all agree that more or less we see the same thing. It is not a solid well defined red circle by any stretch of the imagination. I drew what I see and even a child with perfect vision agreed that it is close to what she sees.

    Does anyone have any explanation?

  • #2
    waawaaweenie
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Apr 2008
    • 659

    I would be contacting Aimpoint before asking here.

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    • #3
      prestige
      Member
      • Apr 2019
      • 163

      Originally posted by waawaaweenie
      I would be contacting Aimpoint before asking here.
      Of course. But it is a weekend. I figured I might get a logical explanation here before Monday. I am curious and impatient I guess.

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      • #4
        ZombieLivesMatter
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 2533

        Take a picture with your camera or phone and see if it’s perfectly round dot or not, that eliminates the human eye being the culprit or not. I had the exact same experience years ago when I bought my first Aimpoint, it was not a dot and my friends saw the same thing, I then exchanged it and the new one did the same thing. Found out we had Astigmatism and it causes the red dot to look like what you described. I no longer use red dots because of it and use etched reticles. Maybe your problem or not.
        Originally posted by gwgn02
        G-shock, a good way to tell the time, and better way to tell the female variety you are unworthy mating material.

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        • #5
          prestige
          Member
          • Apr 2019
          • 163

          I have been trying to capture it on camera but I could not do it. It is always out of focus. Maybe with high-end camera but not with a phone camera.



          I understand that a bad vision would result in a smeared dot - with a shape of a star or a stain. But still whatever it is, in its center it would be a solid red. Not in my case.

          On top of that I discovered that the front glass is significantly tilted to the left:



          I already contacted Aimpoint. Will see how this will pan out.
          Last edited by prestige; 08-29-2020, 3:01 PM.

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          • #6
            ZombieLivesMatter
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2016
            • 2533

            Originally posted by prestige
            On top of that I discovered that the front glass is significantly tilted to the left:



            I already contacted Aimpoint. Will see how this will pan out.
            Tilted lens is correct on the T2.
            Originally posted by gwgn02
            G-shock, a good way to tell the time, and better way to tell the female variety you are unworthy mating material.

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            • #7
              static2126
              Calguns Addict
              • Mar 2013
              • 5619

              Originally posted by prestige
              I have been trying to capture it on camera but I could not do it. It is always out of focus. Maybe with high-end camera but not with a phone camera.



              I understand that a bad vision would result in a smeared dot - with a shape of a star or a stain. But still whatever it is, in its center it would be a solid red. Not in my case.

              On top of that I discovered that the front glass is significantly tilted to the left:



              I already contacted Aimpoint. Will see how this will pan out.
              That tilted lens is normal for a T2

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              • #8
                kozumasbullitt
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Oct 2009
                • 2912

                I have never had an Aimpoint Micro with a clean dot and I have gone through more than a dozen. I have no issues with Trijicon MROs, RMRs, Eotechs, L3 MRDS or the Aimpoint PRO...just Micros for some reason. Unmagnified, the Micro dot is fine for my use but I think something about Micros don't allow for a perfect dot. In addition, other people see the same dot irregularities as me so the Aimpoint "astigmatism" explanation is moot.

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                • #9
                  heyasiankid
                  Member
                  • Dec 2016
                  • 369

                  Originally posted by prestige
                  I have been trying to capture it on camera but I could not do it. It is always out of focus. Maybe with high-end camera but not with a phone camera.



                  I understand that a bad vision would result in a smeared dot - with a shape of a star or a stain. But still whatever it is, in its center it would be a solid red. Not in my case.

                  On top of that I discovered that the front glass is significantly tilted to the left:



                  I already contacted Aimpoint. Will see how this will pan out.

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                  • #10
                    The War Wagon
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 10294

                    Originally posted by waawaaweenie
                    I would be contacting Aimpoint before asking here.



                    ^^^ THIS. Especially WITHOUT an actual picture.

                    Their CS is excellent.
                    sigpic

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                    • #11
                      Scotty
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 2139

                      Originally posted by heyasiankid
                      Tilted lens in normal. It was done to actually make the dot and glare better or something.
                      The LED diode is located on the side of the housing. The lens tilt is to allow the light from the LED to reflect off the lens and into your eye.

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                      • #12
                        Scotty
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 2139

                        Originally posted by prestige
                        I have been trying to capture it on camera but I could not do it. It is always out of focus. Maybe with high-end camera but not with a phone camera.
                        Place the lens of your cellphone all the way up again the back of the sight.

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                        • #13
                          prestige
                          Member
                          • Apr 2019
                          • 163

                          I got the Predator V3. I turned it "on" and the red dot looks better than the Aimpoint. It is still fuzzy though. The glass on the Aimpoint is significantly better. But still very good value for $55. I will keep it around as a backup.

                          I noticed when I flip the rear sight up and select the small peephole, the red dot becomes clearer and the star bursts effect disappears. Cool work-around. The big peephole does not make any difference. I tested with my shooting glasses - no change. But they are nothing special.

                          I am 98% sure my eyes are the problem. Will see what Aimpoint customer support will tell me. But at this point it will be stupid to hope that this is a product defect. I see where things are going... even with Astigmatism. I am looking into prism scopes. Which one is the best?

                          I want to test other red dots from other brands to see if the result is the same or there is a brand/model that cooperates with my eyes. Any suggestions?

                          Yep, a few minutes after I posted the picture of the tilted glass I looked through the front glass and noticed that the position of the LED is not in the center which explains the tilted front glass.

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                          • #14
                            tradecraft
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 4630

                            Where in the bay area are you?
                            Link to my feedback: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...ser-tradecraft

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                            • #15
                              Scotty
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 2139

                              Looking through an aperature confirms that you have astigmatism. Welcome to the club. I see Mickey mouse with aimpoints, but not others.

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