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  • #16
    Spyder
    CGN Contributor
    • Mar 2008
    • 17015

    The cheapo low cost stuff isn't worth getting. Anything less than decent quality Gen 3 you'll be unhappy with and just out a wad of money.

    It's worth buying a PVS14 or better, if you can afford it, and I wouldn't bother with many units that are less expensive.

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    • #17
      eviioiive
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 1620

      Sionyx has a factory rifle mount.

      Originally posted by Kestryll
      Your name has been publicly printed in newspapers and on the web, your expectation of privacy is flat gone.
      Originally posted by CALGUNS.NET
      You have been banned for the following reason: posting other member's personal info without permission. I don't care what your reasoning is that is not allowed.

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      • #18
        G38xOC
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 3749

        For upto 150 yards , I use Leopold tracker . But its hand held mono style . Maybe it's not something your looking for .. but worth to check out . It usually around 600ish . It works decent for night coyote hunt . I use it track movements first then use game light .

        Nvm..just read ur looking for mounted system
        Last edited by G38xOC; 09-26-2019, 9:13 PM.

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        • #19
          redcliff
          Calguns Addict
          • Feb 2008
          • 5676

          Just get a thermal scope and be done with it. No need for a NV monocular as the numerous videos of thermal hog hunting on youtube will demonstrate, although NV can be helpful for getting to your hunting spot. I certainly understand the desire for both types of detection but a thermal will do things NV only will not for you in regard to night hunting.

          Best "cheap" no nonsense thermal scopes on the market are:

          Pulsar Core RXQ30V 1.6-6.4x22mm Thermal Imaging Riflescope

          Armasight Predator 336

          FLIR Thermosight Pro PTS233

          Pulsar Trail XQ38

          You're going to be spending $1900-3300 to get into entry level thermal. I'd get the Pulsar RXQ30V for $1899 if money is tight or your needs are basic; its a very good value with great reviews unless you absolutely want multiple reticles like in the Armasight or video recording like on the Thermosight. If you can afford the price tag consider the Pulsar Trail XQ38 which is full of features.
          Last edited by redcliff; 09-27-2019, 4:00 AM.
          "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
          "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
          "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

          "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
          although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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          • #20
            sigstroker
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2009
            • 19586

            Nobody ever reads original posts any more. "Do not want to spend a lot."

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            • #21
              redcliff
              Calguns Addict
              • Feb 2008
              • 5676

              Originally posted by sigstroker
              Nobody ever reads original posts any more. "Do not want to spend a lot."
              Not everyone defines "a lot" the same as you (or me) since the term is relative. What is your suggestion?

              He wants some type of night vision, so one has to presume he wants something that works for his intended use of shooting/hunting at night. $1900 for the Pulsar Core IS inexpensive for the task and a great bargain. The alternatives, such as NV scopes that require an active light source are disappointing imho and a middle ground not worth traversing; I'd rather just get a good spotlight and shoot with open sights for next to nothing if that is the case.

              If he wants to post the actual dollar amount of money he won't exceed we can try to come up with something cheaper that he likely won't end up being happy with in the long run.
              Last edited by redcliff; 09-27-2019, 11:38 AM.
              "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
              "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
              "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

              "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
              although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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              • #22
                edgerly779
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Aug 2009
                • 19871

                For those that wish to help around 500 bucks for those that do not tip with AH comments go fishing somewhere else. Thanks for the tips . I am looking on ebay I wish I could look thrugh them before buying. Needs picatinny mount and dot or crosshairs, This will mount on ar in 6.8 spc.
                Last edited by edgerly779; 09-27-2019, 11:44 AM.

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                • #23
                  FeuerFrei
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 7455

                  Originally posted by edgerly779
                  Anyone have any experience with night vision or thermal for under 150 yards.
                  The ranch we hunt in Texas is brushy with limited distance. Do not want to spend a lot. I see many on ebay but do not know how well they function.
                  Why not do a rental and "see" for yourself.

                  Lots of dealers do rentals.



                  Dominate nighttime hunting with field-tested thermal & night vision scopes. Ideal for hog, coyote, and predator control. Top brands, expert staff to help and affordable prices. Your trusted source for buying or renting professional hunting optics.

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                  • #24
                    theLBC
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Oct 2017
                    • 6699

                    curious if the ATN scopes are any good

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                    • #25
                      redcliff
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 5676

                      For $500 you're looking at scopes with an IR illuminator which means in bright moonlight you'll have a decent field of view and range but on dark nights you'll pretty much only see what the infra red illuminator is shining on.

                      Armasight Orion 5X Gen 1+ Night Vision with IR illuminator

                      Night Owl Optics NightShot Digital Night Vision Riflescope with IR illuminator

                      Firefield NVRS 3x42 Gen 1 Night Vision Riflescope with IR illuminator

                      I have not used any of the above scopes so do your homework and review videos on youtube. All are available in your budget range. The Firefield has decent reviews for $277 scope. The Armasight is at least from a known respected company in the NV field.
                      Last edited by redcliff; 09-27-2019, 12:04 PM.
                      "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
                      "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
                      "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

                      "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
                      although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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                      • #26
                        redcliff
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 5676

                        Originally posted by theLBC
                        curious if the ATN scopes are any good

                        https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1017323423?pid=412542
                        I have a budget ATN thermal that is decent (its not my primary thermal) which I have not had issues with and I like their software features. The NV model you posted (which also uses an IR illuminator) has good reviews for the price although its slightly over the $500 budget OP established.
                        Last edited by redcliff; 09-27-2019, 12:13 PM.
                        "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
                        "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
                        "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

                        "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
                        although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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                        • #27
                          edgerly779
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 19871

                          That has crosshairs so that might work. We have a huge hog problem. Cannot farm at this time so going to ranch.

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                          • #28
                            redcliff
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 5676

                            Originally posted by edgerly779
                            That has crosshairs so that might work. We have a huge hog problem. Cannot farm at this time so going to ranch.
                            Good luck OP. Its amazing how much damage hogs do and how hard they are to eradicate. You're going to be busy shooters.
                            "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
                            "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
                            "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

                            "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
                            although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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                            • #29
                              edgerly779
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 19871

                              We were never able to harvest anything. Now we have fenced and are putting forage in for cattle and have a feeder up and elevated blinds. Will be trapping next. Planting for game and cattle now wild rice and millet in ponds and millet in farm fields and throughout mesquite thickets we swathed some shooting lanes and for the quail hunting. We have a couple hundred acres in ponds. Hunting does nothing to lower populations.
                              Last edited by edgerly779; 09-27-2019, 12:28 PM.

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                              • #30
                                edgerly779
                                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 19871

                                Wow rentals are 100 bucks a day and nowhere near us so not an option. I guess I will buy try and return if does not satisfy needs.

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