looking for high quality first scope

[ZombieLivesMatter]

I have a Vortex Viper PST FFP on my Ruger Precision Rifle, I live by Pasadena and I shoot at Angeles, you're welcome to try it out.

[k1dude]

The difference is nominal ^^^^.

More than you'd think. Seen too many good hunters (but mostly newbies) miss (or horrifically wound) for exactly that reason. Mostly long shots on sheep, varmints, or antelope.

When they miss like that, and when I know they're more than capable, the first thing I ask is what magnification are you on. Inevitably, it's way off from where it was sighted in.

If you miss or badly wound with a FFP, it's all on you.

[sigstroker]

That's very interesting point. I never even thought of that. I did realize that MOA hashmarks would be off on a SFP scope with it not fully dialed up but didn't think about the actual zero of the rifle changing. Not sure when hunting if I'd always want to be shooting on max magnification. Thanks for the input.

The difference is nominal ^^^^.

The difference is basically non-existant since he said his limit while hunting would be 200 yards. No holdover needed.

[sigstroker]

Also, someone mentioned Tract earlier. Take a second look because they use German Schott glass that the mega-dollar European scope makers use.

Bushnell has come out with a few new lines this year also, that are a great value for the price, according to some web reviews.

[NorCalFocus]

WOW.

OP says he's looking a 3-15/4-16 $1200 scope and is told to get a $300 3x9. CalGuns strikes again. I know y'all been using that combo for 100 years and there's no reason why something better out there might exist.

As far as SFP vs FFP on hunting, if your applying the correct fundamentals to recoil management, you should be able to spot your own bullet splash. If you can, you simply measure with the reticle your miss, and hold that distance with your reticle. As long as you don't change the power setting (on a SFP) between measuring the miss, and taking the follow up shot, the hold will be fine. So dial in for your first shot (if your using that method) then shoot. Or if your using the I zero'd at 200 hold spot on from 0-300, same thing.

Also, why limit yourself on power to 10? You do know that you can set a 4-16 to ten power right? Your setting up a rifle for the slight possibility that one day in the future you may hunt. Don't limit your shelf with a 10 power scope now. A 4-16 will be such more useful at the range shooting 600 yards. Plus you'll be surprised how quickly 600 yards can become boring and you'll want to go further.

[scotty99]

WOW.

OP says he's looking a 3-15/4-16 $1200 scope and is told to get a $300 3x9. CalGuns strikes again. I know y'all been using that combo for 100 years and there's no reason why something better out there might exist.

As far as SFP vs FFP on hunting, if your applying the correct fundamentals to recoil management, you should be able to spot your own bullet splash. If you can, you simply measure with the reticle your miss, and hold that distance with your reticle. As long as you don't change the power setting (on a SFP) between measuring the miss, and taking the follow up shot, the hold will be fine. So dial in for your first shot (if your using that method) then shoot. Or if your using the I zero'd at 200 hold spot on from 0-300, same thing.

Also, why limit yourself on power to 10? You do know that you can set a 4-16 to ten power right? Your setting up a rifle for the slight possibility that one day in the future you may hunt. Don't limit your shelf with a 10 power scope now. A 4-16 will be such more useful at the range shooting 600 yards. Plus you'll be surprised how quickly 600 yards can become boring and you'll want to go further.