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  • boyguan
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2016
    • 751

    Swfa thoughts and magnification

  • #2
    Kwikvette
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2015
    • 3704

    SWFA 10x has some great glass and has worked well for me out to 800 yards.

    It just depends on what you feel comfortable with; too much magnification and that crosshair jumps like crazy.

    Nice thing is, with a scope that's fixed, money's spent on better glass.
    Originally posted by longrange1
    my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
    Originally posted by XDJYo
    Full size. Stubbies are for sissies.

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    • #3
      boyguan
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2016
      • 751

      Originally posted by Kwikvette
      SWFA 10x has some great glass and has worked well for me out to 800 yards.

      It just depends on what you feel comfortable with; too much magnification and that crosshair jumps like crazy.

      Nice thing is, with a scope that's fixed, money's spent on better glass.

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      • #4
        Kwikvette
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2015
        • 3704

        Originally posted by boyguan
        That’s one reason I am going fixed. I have a variable and I’m always at max even at 100. Why even bother with the lower power.

        Currently I’m only bench shooting so it’s paper punching and I’m going for tight groups. I believe once we go further it was be ringing steel which is more about hitting a target vs where exactly it’s hitting

        I know the 10 was suppose to be a benchmark scope for swfa. What about the 12? Is the quality worse or should I expect the swme
        I have no experience with the 12 so I can't comment.

        Where, and how often, will you shoot in excess of 100 yards?

        I like having variable magnification. Even though I need as much as I can get, I don't always have it at max. But when I need more, it's always good to have it at my finger tips.
        Originally posted by longrange1
        my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
        Originally posted by XDJYo
        Full size. Stubbies are for sissies.

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        • #5
          boyguan
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2016
          • 751

          Originally posted by Kwikvette
          I have no experience with the 12 so I can't comment.

          Where, and how often, will you shoot in excess of 100 yards?

          I like having variable magnification. Even though I need as much as I can get, I don't always have it at max. But when I need more, it's always good to have it at my finger tips.

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          • #6
            Kwikvette
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2015
            • 3704

            Originally posted by boyguan
            I’m almost always at 100 but 2 hours away we have a nice 1000 yard range and matches i would like to get into.

            I shoot maybe once a month if I can. Unless I am doing some type of development I don’t bring this rifle to the range
            Nice; Sacramento?

            I'm about 3-4hrs away and they're closed on my only days off

            If I were you I would opt for a higher budget, and a better piece of glass. Have to remember that, a good scope is one you can use on multiple rifles.

            You'll see a lot of recommendations here and there so based off my personal experience I'd opt for;

            Vortex PST under 600

            Burris XTR II under 800 (my favorite budget scope)

            Bushnell Elite Tactical under 1,000

            Vortex Razor I (if found under 1,000 used)

            And above that, I'd just dive right into a Nightforce ATACR.
            Originally posted by longrange1
            my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
            Originally posted by XDJYo
            Full size. Stubbies are for sissies.

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            • #7
              Dark Hunt
              Member
              • Sep 2016
              • 420

              A fixed 10X is probably the worst choice for long range shooting. When you're shooting to 1,000 yards you want to use as much magnification that you can. Anyone shooting seriously will be running more than 20X and many times 40X. If the mirage is so bad that you can't run the higher magnification then you turn it down to just low enough to see the target.

              The 6-20X or 5.5-22X are probably the minimum, a quality 6-24X would work well and the 8-32X would be better. You want to aim for the one inch tall white X in the center of the target.
              NRA Endowment Life Member

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              • #8
                FMJBT
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 4888

                I've always found 10X to be what would best be described as "adequate" for 1000 yard shooting. Not the best option, but definitely capable for that range. My ideal 1000 yard scope would be somewhere around 15X on the top end, so you can see a bit more detail than 10X but still have a wide enough field of view that you can spot your own hits/misses under recoil. I'd second Kwikvette's suggestions for scopes, particularly the Burris XTR II series.
                U.S. Navy (Retired) 1994-2015

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                • #9
                  boyguan
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2016
                  • 751

                  Originally posted by Dark Hunt
                  A fixed 10X is probably the worst choice for long range shooting. When you're shooting to 1,000 yards you want to use as much magnification that you can. Anyone shooting seriously will be running more than 20X and many times 40X. If the mirage is so bad that you can't run the higher magnification then you turn it down to just low enough to see the target.

                  The 6-20X or 5.5-22X are probably the minimum, a quality 6-24X would work well and the 8-32X would be better. You want to aim for the one inch tall white X in the center of the target.

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                  • #10
                    Nor*Cal
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 2687

                    I own one of the fixed 10x SWFA's and it's a great scope for the money but I do think you'll want something with a little more magnification for 1000 yards.

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                    • #11
                      HK Dave
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 5737

                      10x is a little low for me. Keep in mind it isn’t just magnification though. High end scope at 10x will out resolve a lesser scope at 40x.

                      In the end it comes down to how big a target you’re aiming at, and whether you’re spotting your own shots.

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                      • #12
                        Guns and guitars
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 1548

                        Im kinda a scope elitist.
                        But with that said Ive found the swfa ss 10x scopes are pretty darn good for the cost. No US optics or Swarovski but they work most importantly are repeatable..

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                        • #13
                          boyguan
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2016
                          • 751

                          Originally posted by Guns and guitars
                          Im kinda a scope elitist.
                          But with that said Ive found the swfa ss 10x scopes are pretty darn good for the cost. No US optics or Swarovski but they work most importantly are repeatable..

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                          • #14
                            Kwikvette
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2015
                            • 3704

                            OP, where do you regularly shoot?

                            Someone may be near you and let you check out some scopes before dropping more than you're comfortable with.
                            Originally posted by longrange1
                            my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
                            Originally posted by XDJYo
                            Full size. Stubbies are for sissies.

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                            • #15
                              boyguan
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2016
                              • 751

                              Originally posted by Kwikvette
                              OP, where do you regularly shoot?

                              Someone may be near you and let you check out some scopes before dropping more than you're comfortable with.

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