NRA Match 2-3-600yd scope needed

[Gunsrruss]

I have heard that we can now use a 1-4 power scope for cross the course shooting with the AR. I know nothing about these scopes. I only use 5 X 22 X 56 nightforce for my precision rifles. Please help

[ocabj]

Max 4.5x is legal. IIRC, you can have a variable, but you are not allowed to change the magnification during the match.

Check out:

http://www.bullets.com/shop/brand_march-optics/secondfocalplane/1-4-and-a-halfx24mm-scope?src=march&srcpath=/second-focal-plane

http://www.nightforceoptics.com/competition/4.5x24

As well as the options sold by WOA:

https://www.whiteoakarmament.com/shop/highpower-competition/service-rifle-optics.html

There really isn't much I can tell you since I haven't been shooting SR since before the new rules went to effect. I looked through the March and it is a nice scope, but I didn't try to run the turrets or live fire on it from the three positions.

The March that I saw was on a Marine shooter's gun and that is what his team requested for their guns. His reasoning for the March was the adjustable parallax. The Nightforce SR 4.5x fixed is fixed parallax at 200 yard. I honestly don't know if the adjustable parallax is going to be critical for this type of scope at that magnification on those distances.

The March and Nightforce are around $2K, IIRC. There are lower price 4.5x max scopes that people are opting for (see that WOA link above).

But again, I've been out of the High Power Service Rifle game for a while, so I am not personally messing around with any of this stuff.

[OpenSightsOnly]

Yes, for CMP Service Rifle, 4.5x is the max.

If you want to shoot NRA XTC, you can use 4.5x for Service Rifle class but if you want to use a scope that is not 4.5x then you will get classified as a match rifle.

[smoothy8500]

Hi-Lux has come out with one for XTC and is getting some interest on the National Match forums. Under $500 price range:

https://hi-luxoptics.com/products/hi-lux-across-the-course-xtc14x34-competition-rifle-scope

Leupold 1-4.5 with the "pig-plex" reticle has been used on the line too.

[OpticsPlanet]

The Vortex Viper PST 1-4x is another good choice

-Matt S.

[smoothy8500]

The Vortex Viper PST 1-4x is another good choice

-Matt S.

Good price and Vortex reputation.

Is it available in MOA adjustment? The link shows it has milrad adjustment. Generally the NRA competitors prefer MOA adjustment since the rings and our scorebooks on the target are MOA scaled.

[bubbapug1]

I know a local marksman shooting the vortex. He is very good - a high master, distinguished, shoots high master scores. He has tried the leupold sold by woa and the nightforce and prefers the vortex. I bought one. I think I got the wrong reticle. It's a small 1 moa dot that lights up but fades into the black. The outer donut is 18 moa, not really worth much either. Worthless for my eyes but my friend claims the vortex is repeatable through the entire yardage, and yes, it's MOA. 1/2 minute clicks. Glass is fantastic too. He's up there in the 780's....I am at 708.

The Hi-Lux really looks great, but does the reticle move repeatably? Does the parralex work? How is the glass? I never heard of them before, but the scope has everything a hi power shooter has been dreaming of the last few years, all for $425.00 That is almost impossible.

[OpticsPlanet]

Good price and Vortex reputation.

Is it available in MOA adjustment? The link shows it has milrad adjustment. Generally the NRA competitors prefer MOA adjustment since the rings and our scorebooks on the target are MOA scaled.

The PST Gen 1 is being disco'd, so all we have left is the MOA version.

Vortex did offer it in MRAD, which is why our product page has some values in mils (sorry about that)

Vortex PST 1-4x (MPN PST-14ST-A)

Adjustment Graduation 1/2 MOA
Travel per Rotation 24 MOA
Max Elevation Adjustment 220 MOA
Max Windage Adjustment 220 MOA
Parallax Setting 100 yards

All it seems to be missing is adjustable parallax

-Matt S.

[OpticsPlanet]

The Hi-Lux really looks great, but does the reticle move repeatably? Does the parralex work? How is the glass? I never heard of them before, but the scope has everything a hi power shooter has been dreaming of the last few years, all for $425.00 That is almost impossible.

Haven't gotten my hands on that particular model, but I recently spent some time with the Hi Lux CMR8 1-8x

Glass was pretty good, not quite as clear at top magnification as one or two other 1-8xFFP at that price point.

Turret adjustments were solid and repeatable.

A big selling point for a lot of people with Hi Lux optics is they like the reticle design.

-Matt S.

[smoothy8500]

Turret adjustments were solid and repeatable.

-Matt S.

That's the "selling point" XTC shooters are concerned with. Clarity and brightness are distant seconds. Dozens of L/R windage adjustments every match puts a lot of "stress" on the scopes that even Nightforce and March scopes are getting complaints on USRifleteams forum. The Vortex has been doing OK according to the reviews, along with Leupy and Hi-Lux.

No one seems to agree on what reticle works best. An 8 MOA circle seems popular since the target is 6 MOA, allowing 1 MOA space around the target. Some shooters can then "favor" 1 or even half MOA rather than turning the turret on a wind shift.