Aimpoint 3x Magnifier Clones feedback needed

[tyan]

whoa......thats sweet.....is burris making a reddot to go with that?

Yes. The Burris XTS 135 red dot. I have two and I love it. It take aimpoint mount or and 30mm scope mount.

[Arteel]

My aimpoint replica was actually very clear, but there were 2 things that made me sell it. It wasn't exactly centered because the adjustment screws didn't do a dam thing and the mount it came with was crap. If the adjustments worked like they should, I could have just bought a mount from larue and called it a day.

[bwiese]

One favorable issue on clones of external magnifiers for sights is that they themselves do not have a reticle to go out of zero.

Most folks don't need great optic quality, but they do need scopes that keep zero.

[Justintoxicated]

did this Burris ever come out? I'm currently looking for a magnifier but not sure I want to invest more than my EOTech cost in the first place.

[WeekendWarrior]

did this Burris ever come out? I'm currently looking for a magnifier but not sure I want to invest more than my EOTech cost in the first place.

I just did a quick google search and it is selling for about 199 without a mount. I couldnt find it withe the flip away mount, but opticsplanet has it withe a standard mount for like 250

[aplinker]

[QUOTE]Burris has run into unexpected difficulties in bringing the AR-Pivot ring to market. We are trying to solve these problems- but are not likely to be successful in 2009. We are hoping for a better outcome in 2010. If you wanted this product we apologize. Despite our efforts to this point- we cannot assure delivery this year.

answer

http://www.burrisoptics.com/arpivotring.html#

I wonder whether they're technical or patent issues.

[joelogic]

The AR-Tripler is $189.99 dealer price at Midway.

[maxicon]

The AR Tripler isn't bad, but has very short eye relief. I don't know how it compares to the other Chinese magnifiers, but I regularly bump into mine with my glasses when lining it up.

As you'd expect, using a magnifier dramatically slows down target aquisition compared to a non-magnified optic, since you now have to line up the unforgiving eye relief.

One of the benefits of the Burris is that it lets you center the magnifier internally, rather than having to put up with misadjustments or use an asjustable mount. The adjustments aren't marked on mine, but it's not hard to figure out, and there's no precision involved.

I've been testing mine in a Burris XTR extra-high ring, and it works well, but spacing's a problem with my Eotech, depending on the upper I have it on. This setup blocks the buttons on the Eotech 552 if I get it too close, and moving the Eotech forward doesn't work on uppers with handguards even slightly above the rail.

I can't imagine paying $400 or so for the real thing, which also reportedly has tight eye relief. I can think of a half-dozen scopes I'd buy with the same money.

Personally, for plinking, I'd get one of the cheap Chinese knock-offs. That way, if you hate it, you can sell it for a small loss and not be out much, and if you like it, you can save for the uber-expensive name brands.

[Justintoxicated]

[QUOTE=uclaplinker;2637466]

Burris has run into unexpected difficulties in bringing the AR-Pivot ring to market. We are trying to solve these problems- but are not likely to be successful in 2009. We are hoping for a better outcome in 2010. If you wanted this product we apologize. Despite our efforts to this point- we cannot assure delivery this year.

answer

http://www.burrisoptics.com/arpivotring.html#

I wonder whether they're technical or patent issues.

But I could get this with a different mount or that combo won't work? I want a magnifier but it must be able to mount to a flip-to-the-side mount. The Burris looks like it would be decent quality for the price. but if it can't flip to the side I'd jsut assume buy the eotech or aimpoint version.

Would something like this work?

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/ea-30mm-larue-tactical-qd-pivot-mount.html

[maxicon]

The real LaRue mount needs to be jacked open a little extra to fit the AR-Tripler into it, using a longer screw and jacking it against a coin. Burris supplies a kit for this, but you could do it yourself easily.

http://www.burrisoptics.com/laruemountkit.html

Whether this will bend or break an Airsoft LaRue copy is hard to say. Let us know how it works if you try it.

[SuperSet]

The AR Tripler isn't bad, but has very short eye relief. I don't know how it compares to the other Chinese magnifiers, but I regularly bump into mine with my glasses when lining it up.

Personally, for plinking, I'd get one of the cheap Chinese knock-offs. That way, if you hate it, you can sell it for a small loss and not be out much, and if you like it, you can save for the uber-expensive name brands.

Technically, isn't the AR Tripler a Chinese clone as well? IIRC, someone posted an ARFCOM review and the Tripler photo clearly showed Made In China.

AFAIK, the only non Chinese magnifiers are the Aimpoint 3X, EOTech 4X and the DM Premium Optics.

[Standard]

I got an aimpoint clone from a seller on arfcom, and it is actually really good. Everyone there who bought one has been really happy with it. I'm going to pick up a 3x from the samee seller for $79, but I want a flip to side mount and I can't find one for a decent price.

[Justintoxicated]

The real LaRue mount needs to be jacked open a little extra to fit the AR-Tripler into it, using a longer screw and jacking it against a coin. Burris supplies a kit for this, but you could do it yourself easily.

http://www.burrisoptics.com/laruemountkit.html

Whether this will bend or break an Airsoft LaRue copy is hard to say. Let us know how it works if you try it.

The thing is, I can get an eotech 3x wih flip to the side for only a little more than the Burris with a larue flip to the side mount. The Burris is a Cheap China Knockoff as well? If so I may as well just buy the real deal?

[maxicon]

Technically, isn't the AR Tripler a Chinese clone as well? IIRC, someone posted an ARFCOM review and the Tripler photo clearly showed Made In China.

AFAIK, the only non Chinese magnifiers are the Aimpoint 3X, EOTech 4X and the DM Premium Optics.

It's Chinese, but it's not a clone, as far as I know. I don't know of any other optic it was copied from, but red dot magnifiers aren't my area of expertise. The Chinese are capable of making good quality gear to a vendor's specs, if they're willing to pay - not all Chinese stuff is cheap junk.

I'd be interested in knowing if it is a copy of someone else's sight.

[jeffyboy]

Well, since I'm the OP I thought I would update the thread with my findings. I did a lot of research and decided to try the 3x clone first and I must say I was very surpise by this chinese copy. The optics are clear and work well with a real ML3. I am able to hit tin cans at 150yds with ease and hitting paper in 1-2" groups at 100yds is a breeze.

Now, when compared to a real 3x the eye relief is not that far off...but the real ones is better...but only barely. The quality of the clone suprised me too. I dropped the AR a few times (not on purpose) and the 3x held up just fine. So, I'll stick with the clone for a while and hold on to my $$$.