There is No *Problem* with Aimpoint Pro

[ILYSB]

Hello, recently there were two posts about problems with internal light blurbs with Aimpoint pro:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1324040 and

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1319807

I have cut and pasted from the first thread my explanation as to why this red light blurb is normal below. I am merely another proud aimpoint pro owner, not affiliated with company or retail store:

I believe it's an internal reflection off the front pelical mirrored/coated glass element. It just a reflection of light that originally bouncing off the rear, internal raised wedge (about 0.6 cm wide) at the back opening of the laser assembly.

If you turn off laser, look inside from front, rearward, you will see an elongated laser assembly opening and at back of that a small piece of aluminum that is slightly angled in relation to tube. (I took about one hour of close examination to figure this out). That slightly angled aluminum piece is kicking off bright light which bounces off front glass element - just as the original forward pointing laser light emitted from said laser assembly - which gives us that nice tiny Red Dot - and is giving you the annoying light "blurb" that we see internally.

You will notice in your photo, this red internal reflection that is visible in your photos and which others have said "is not normal" is exactly 180 degrees opposite the internal laser assembly and the external laser brightness setting dial. The other calgunner with same "problem", reflection is also identically set off 180 degrees. Mine too.

If the problem were due to lens element separation, the pattern would not be set off exactly 180 degrees on 3 separate, randomly sampled optics. This is your best clue.

Hope this helps

[Ki6vsm]

Thanks. Good explanation.

FWIW, I don't think you're using this word "blurb" correctly and, technical writer that I am, I cannot let it go. A blurb is "a short description of a book, movie, or other product written for promotional purposes and appearing on the cover of a book or in an advertisement." Doesn't really have any other meaning that I'm aware of. Certainly nothing related to optical aberrations.

[essjay]

I believe OP meant "blob."

[Ki6vsm]

Or he might have been trying to coin a portmanteau of "blur" and "blob". But the word's already taken and in wide use.

In any case, I guess the meaning is clear from the context. I've never looked through a PRO so I can't comment on that. But I assume they're solid optics.

[teflondog]

While it may not be a problem, not every Aimpoint has that red reflection. If I got one with a reflection, I'd exchange it for another one without that "feature". I've been lucky since none of my Aimpoints have it.

[ILYSB]

orb + blur = blurb

[ILYSB]

While it may not be a problem, not every Aimpoint has that red reflection. If I got one with a reflection, I'd exchange it for another one without that "feature". I've been lucky since none of Aimpoints have it.

The interior of the Ampoint is not symmetrical. One cannot expect the internal reflections to be symmetrical.

If you look at all Aimpoint Pros under the same lighting conditions as the two OPs above, each would show the same internal reflection pattern.

[teflondog]

The interior of the Ampoint is not symmetrical. One cannot expect the internal reflections to be symmetrical.

If you look at all Aimpoint Pros under the same lighting conditions as the two OPs above, each would show the same internal reflection pattern.

Then I guess I'm lucky that I don't notice it in any of my Aimpoints.

[TygerAR]

Did you watch ZombieLivesMatter's Video? At 0:45 TO 0:59 the red covers half the sight picture. Assuming that this is a video and real life would be worst, do you consider that acceptable? Would you be will to trade your non-glare PRO for ZombieLivesmatter's PRO? It does not matter if it's 180 degrees or 360 degrees or zero degrees, if it is "not normal" then it is "not right". If this occurred in the CompM4, then no one would put up with it. Nothing wrong with the PRO line (I own 5), but not every PRO will come out perfect. But if it's not perfect the consumer should not have to live/deal with it. Everyone who wants a PRO should buy one with confidence knowing that Aimpoint, being a great company, will correct the issue. And consumers should not hesitate to return/exchange a PRO with this issue.

[ILYSB]

Then I guess I'm lucky that I don't notice it in any of my Aimpoints.

I will bet you $500 bucks that under proper lighting circumstances, I can reproduce AND photograph the same red reflection in YOUR aimpoint Pro.

I live in So Cal. Do you want to put your money where your mouth is, bring your aimpoint Pro, a $500 cash wager, and meet up somewhere to make a bet that your aimpoint pro cannot be photograph with same red reflection?

[ILYSB]

Here Is another photo of internal aimpoint pro reflectio on another web article, unbeknownst to author.

Throughout his review of New Aimpoint Pro on YouTube, you can see the reflection momentarily throughout the entire video, 0:45 and 1:13 being just a few examples.

The great thing about this photo is opposite the glare, exactly 180 degrees away, you can see the laser assembly opening which is the natural cause of this reflection.

Some of the guys who replied to this thread with obstinate denials that this reflection is not natural or in their own Aimpoint Pro really show the large amount of ignorance that is pervasive on this forum - as if stubbornness and ignorance hold sway over enlightenment and self education. I imagine 'sticking one's head in the sand" is even worse amongst firearm enthusiasts who dont network on educational forums such as this one.

We have to do better, guys.

[teflondog]

I will bet you $500 bucks that under proper lighting circumstances, I can reproduce AND photograph the same red reflection in YOUR aimpoint Pro.

I live in So Cal. Do you want to put your money where your mouth is, bring your aimpoint Pro, a $500 cash wager, and meet up somewhere to make a bet that your aimpoint pro cannot be photograph with same red reflection?

In my post that you quoted, did I say that the red reflection doesn't exist in my Aimpoints? No, I did not. I simply stated that I'm lucky to not notice it.

[crufflers]

I will bet you $500 bucks that under proper lighting circumstances, I can reproduce AND photograph the same red reflection in YOUR aimpoint Pro.

I live in So Cal. Do you want to put your money where your mouth is, bring your aimpoint Pro, a $500 cash wager, and meet up somewhere to make a bet that your aimpoint pro cannot be photograph with same red reflection?

Did you seek help for your gambling problem?

[ZombieLivesMatter]

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1324040

Late reply cause I missed this post but here's a update, after sending the pictures and video I linked in my original post above to Aimpoint, they were very apologetic and quick to exchange it under warranty, great customer service. The new replacement looks great, no red line and no red haze covering 50% of the glass:



Aimpoint PROs are great values and good to go.

[teflondog]

Late reply cause I missed this post but here's a update, after sending the pictures and video I linked in my original post above to Aimpoint, they were very apologetic and quick to exchange it under warranty, great customer service. The new replacement looks great, no red line and no red haze covering 50% of the glass:

Aimpoint PROs are great values and good to go.

Are you willing to "put your money where your mouth is"? ILYSB has $500 with your name on it if what you say is true. He lives in So Cal.