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  • hardlyworking
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 1210

    Sanity Check / Advice Request

    While I always thought I had a normal face... apparently I don't.

    The Problem:
    For me, when I get a good solid cheek weld on an AR, and get up NTCH for repeatable eye placement I am staring at the back of the iron-sight body, or looking below the eyepiece of the scope.

    If I measure (kinda hard to do yourself) I would say that my ideal sight height is between 0.75 and 1.0 inches, rather than the AR-standard 1.5 inches, depending how firm my cheek weld is.

    If I go with standard AR height scope base, or irons I can get good eye placement by building up the stock with foam, but then I can't run the charging handle.

    And lastly, I only have one "good" scope SWFA 3-15, that I want to be able to (even if it doesn't happen often) move between a bolt action with adjustable comb height (so this problem is irrelevant) and some ARs for hand-load accuracy testing where this cheek-weld problem really comes into play.

    The Proposed Solution:
    I was thinking I could buy a set of nice low rings such as TPS s-low which puts the centerline of the scope 0.82" above the rail, or their low which puts it at 0.925" and so long as the bolt-gun rail was picatinni spec I could pull it off the bolt gun any time needed and plop it onto an AR as mentioned above.

    The objective bell is listed as 42mm which translates to 1.654 inches. Half of that is .827 which means .925" would have a 1/10th inch of clearance over an AR rail. With one of the non-full-length pic-rail handguards like ALG or SLR, the super-low rings would even work.

    Once I get the scope centered/leveled in the rings it would be great to leave them on forever, and just remount the unit on alternate platforms so long as they all had the same spec/spacing on the mounting rail.

    The Question(s):
    Am I crazy? Should I just get a new face? Should I just let my whole head "free-float" above the stock?

    Or does this seem like a viable solution to my problem?

    Thanks all for reading and offering any suggestions you might have!
  • #2
    nedro
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 4130

    I use a magpul stock with a cheek riser. Risers are about twenty bucks.
    You can still pull the charging handle with the stock all the way back.

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    • #3
      robledo
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 978

      If I'm reading all of that halfways correctly, then it seems like you're making a big deal of half of an inch of difference on your cheek or face's placement for a 223/5.56 AR with as little recoil as they have. Either get used to shooting with an imperfect cheek/chin weld or run your stock out with a riser.

      Or just mount those low rings. You basically answered your own question. It's your gun. Rock it.

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      • #4
        Dark Hunt
        Member
        • Sep 2016
        • 420

        That's why they make different height rings. Don't adapt your hold to fit your rifle, adapt your rifle to fit you.
        NRA Endowment Life Member

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        • #5
          flyboy3394
          Member
          • Aug 2014
          • 310

          Larue RISR

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          • #6
            Steponmytoes
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2014
            • 652

            You must get a new neck and a new face but you must not let your head float over the stock

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            • #7
              hardlyworking
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 1210

              Originally posted by Dark Hunt
              That's why they make different height rings. Don't adapt your hold to fit your rifle, adapt your rifle to fit you.
              So you are saying, do the ring thing, right?

              Also, that LaRoux stock thingy looks like a decent fix the the problem as well, but I'd need one for every lower, rather than one set of low-rings.

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              • #8
                rkt88edmo
                Reptile&Samurai Moderator
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Dec 2002
                • 10058

                Cheek Riser

                Old underwear and duct tape.
                If it was a snake, it would have bit me.
                Use the goog to search calguns

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                • #9
                  CouchOperator
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2016
                  • 4353

                  Battleline SAPR might be worth looking at too.

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                  • #10
                    hardlyworking
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 1210

                    Quick update: cheap strong and heavy SWFA medium rings (iirc) hold center if 30mm scope at 1.05 inches above the pic rail. Damn near perfect for me for height. The .925 TPS would be even better and lighter but these will do.

                    On the SWFA 1-4 the eyebox allows me to mount the forward ring on the last slot before the hand guard starts and it works just fine.

                    However on the SWFA 3-15 even at 15x the sweet spot for my eye is too far to the rear. It's ok for standing where I've got more flexibility with my check weld, but for prone it's just not going to work without mounting out on the gad guard, which is a no-no

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