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  • #31
    FourT6and2
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 1928

    Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
    Again, the units you use to measure the distance to your target doesn't make one way of measuring angles better than another. Neither milrads or HMS is "metric". So, you can use whatever you want but, please quit proving your ignorance by posting things you obviously know absolutely nothing about. I would suggest taking a couple math classes that deal with different ways to measure angles, how to use stadia and how stadia works. It might help you to better understand how angular measurements are used to range with and adjust optics when shooting.
    I wouldn't worry about it. Some people just can't see past their own cognitive dissonance.

    Even though neither MRAD nor MOA have anything to do with the metric/imperial systems, there will always be people who scream about yards or meters or inches or centimeters. When in reality, the unit of measure doesn't really matter in practice. In the real world, the reasonable person uses the ruler that's three inches in front of their face: The Reticle. And the reticle doesn't need a unit of measure IF IT MATCHES THE TURRETS. And most quality scopes today have matching reticle and turrets. If your shot lands low or left or high or right, just line up your reticle, count how many lines or dots your shot was off by, and spin your turrets to compensate. Or hold off. There's no math involved other than being able to count to 10.

    You know this. I know this. A lot of other people just can't seem to understand it.

    If your turret is in MRAD and your reticle is in MOA (or the other way around), well then I feel for you, son. 'Cuz you're making it real difficult on yourself.


    It's funny, too. Because this exact same thread is going on at different forums and it's always the same nonsense about, "Well I think in inches and yaaaards!!!!!" And I get it. And I don't think anybody is trying to push one system over another. But it's comical and tragic people can't seem to grasp such a simple thing as both systems being equally simple to use and that there's no more math involved with one versus the other.
    Last edited by FourT6and2; 02-10-2017, 5:13 PM.

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    • #32
      HibikiR
      Senior Member
      • May 2014
      • 2418

      Originally posted by cvigue
      Correct, the MRAD is a ratio based on the radian. It is a milliradian, thus at 100m it subtends 100m/1000 or 0.1m or 10cm. It is a decimal system and as such is easy to do calculations for humans with 10 fingers.
      That's what I heard, but you have to stick with metric in all calculations otherwise you'll deal with unit conversions.

      There are a lot of articles and forum threads out there comparing MIL and MOA, but most either aren’t objective or they’re overly complex. I’ll try to avoid both of those pitfalls in this article. Executive Summary A few months ago I asked Bryan Litz whether he personally used MIL or MOA. Bryan is an ...

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      • #33
        rich_o
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2016
        • 28

        Originally posted by krb
        Hi, everyone.
        I'm looking at purchasing my first high-end long range scope. I think I've finally decided on what to get except for reticle in MOA vs MIL. I've learned as much as I can from the internet. Unfortunately none of my friends is a shooter so I can't go to them. (If anyone is around the Encino/Woodland Hills area, I'll buy lunch and ammo if you want to go out and school an inexperienced newbie.)

        The last decision to make is MOA vs MIL. I was planning on going with MIL because - let's face it - the metric system really is a better system even if we don't grow up with it. But the rep suggested that everyone else likes MOA and I shouldn't be so quick to go MIL.

        What do you think?
        Keith
        MOA = minute of angle...just as metric as anything.

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