Iron sight question

[Blauplow]

I'm confused on which is the correct sight picture. The one I beleive is correct pic 1 is harder to repeat. Poi on both is just above center post or 6. O'clock hold

While pic 2 doesn't look quite right but easily repeatable, bottom of post flush with bottom of rear sight hole

Or am I all screwed up?

[WMG]

The 1st pic

But I once had an enfield I needed to use like the bottom pic ... only caue I did not feel like getting the proper front sight height post

[Blauplow]

It just seems like it's too easy to be off using it like the 1st pic. Centering left-right up-down and trying to be on target. Is there a trick I'm not aware of?

[OpenSightsOnly]

I'm confused on which is the correct sight picture. The one I beleive is correct pic 1 is harder to repeat. Poi on both is just above center post or 6. O'clock hold

While pic 2 doesn't look quite right but easily repeatable, bottom of post flush with bottom of rear sight hole

Or am I all screwed up?

Check this out - http://www.odcmp.org/0907/default.as...U_SIGHTPICTURE

If you use six hold, center mass, or what your eye and brain likes, your FOCUS should be at the FLAT TOP of the front sight post.

[OpenSightsOnly]

Opps, should have added this

Go see a movie -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owFmGWj4x0c

[WMG]

your eye should center it naturally.
BUT , if you like it more the other way ... no law says you can't be adaptive

[Blauplow]

your eye should center it naturally.
BUT , if you like it more the other way ... no law says you can't be adaptive

I think it's just the shroud around the front post that is throwing me off. My eye tries to center that since it's more dominant

[WMG]

I think it's just the shroud around the front post that is throwing me off. My eye tries to center that since it's more dominant

That is understandable as I believe way back in the day the military discovered troops were firing in combat under stress and sighting with the protective ears instead of using the front sight post ...... so later they curved the ears to help the troops not make that mistake.
the top pic is accepted as the PROPER way ..... however if you have a way that works better for you ....... IMO , it'd be foolish to throw it by the way side.
I'm sure I do what works best for me ...... proper way or not.
And as I said , I had an Enfield no4 mk1 I used to sight like pic 2.
I know it was slower for me than using it properly ..there is more to align up that way.... but it was accurate enough to pop spray paint cans at 200yds.
people said I should have gotten a taller front sight ....... but why fix what wasn't that broke I figured.

[kcheung2]

Yeah, I have no problem centering it. With a proper cheek weld & focusing on the front sight, the rear sight just naturally centers itself.

[jarhead714]

Getting a normal American front sight would help things a lot..

[Bainter1212]

That is understandable as I believe way back in the day the military discovered troops were firing in combat under stress and sighting with the protective ears instead of using the front sight post ...... so later they curved the ears to help the troops not make that mistake.
the top pic is accepted as the PROPER way ..... however if you have a way that works better for you ....... IMO , it'd be foolish to throw it by the way side.
I'm sure I do what works best for me ...... proper way or not.
And as I said , I had an Enfield no4 mk1 I used to sight like pic 2.
I know it was slower for me than using it properly ..there is more to align up that way.... but it was accurate enough to pop spray paint cans at 200yds.
people said I should have gotten a taller front sight ....... but why fix what wasn't that broke I figured.

I have an M1 carbine with the front sight ears ground off, probably done in theater. It DOES make it easier to get a quick sight picture.

OP, the key to centering that front sight properly is to focus on ONLY the front sight while maintaining a tight, repeatable cheek weld.

I can't stress enough the importance of getting your cheek in the exact same spot every time you shoulder the rifle. The sights should line up automatically after that.

If you are having trouble with consistent cheek weld, you may have a problem with length-of-pull or too low of a stock.

[Drew Eckhardt]

It just seems like it's too easy to be off using it like the 1st pic. Centering left-right up-down and trying to be on target. Is there a trick I'm not aware of?

Your brain naturally wants to center things, although having two circles which aren't supposed to line up could interfere with that.

Presumably that's why peep sights are more often like this on US service rifles from the M1 on and FAL (right arm of the free world):

(equal space horizontally between wings and outer circle, post top vertically centered)

or this on a HK (used by nearly every country outside the Soviet sphere of influence that didn't issue a FAL)

(equal space around the inner circle, post on the target)

A naked post is OK too.

[jarhead714]

Your brain naturally wants to center things, although having a couple of circles which aren't supposed to line up could get confusing.

Presumably that's why peel sights are like this

God bless America. We do sights right!

[Divernhunter]

#1 is correct and with use will come naturally.
Also your(or at least most normal people) eye will tend to naturally center the circles you look thru and the post. If you cannot then the stock does not fit you properly and adjustments should be made so it does.

[ocabj]

The ears on the front sight are only meant to protect the front sight post.

https://www.ocabj.net/sight-picture-a-primer/