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  • bubbapug1
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2008
    • 7958

    Installing target knobs on a Willaims FP sight

    I installed a William FP sight on my Winchester 55. The thing works great. While its not a Warner target sight, its very close. All it needed was some target knobs....Oh Wait. they make them with target sights?? I didn't know, and installed a lower grade unit. I called Williams and got the retrofit parts. Here is a little write up on installing them.



    Note the old adjustment screw. Its scalloped to detent with the ball bearing, which you can see also in he picture. Is to the left of the data white line. As long as you keep the sight in this orientation while removing the old screw you can't go wrong. The old screw needs to be pushed out, easy to do by pushing the end of it with a flat screwdriver. Once the old screw is out, push the new one back in and your done.



    The above shows the windage screw and the detent ball also located at the white data line. This screw is left threads, and must be screwed out, which pushes the peep sight to one side of the frame...see below.



    After its screwed out of the peep, just give it a yank and it comes right out. Make sure the sight is in the orientation shown so the ball stays in place. Remember when screwing the new screw in its left threads, or you will be pulling your hair out like I did for five minutes thinking I had stripped the works!


    Next come the gib lock screw for the elevation. Mine was way too long.....



    The new one is on the left. You can see the threads are twice as long as needed. I diamond wheeled them off with a dremel.



    Another picture of the old and new screw, and the gib itself. After I shortened the threads it worked great.

    Unfortunately there still is the little issue with the locking screw for windage. If its losses, the peep can and does rotate up and down substantially, like about 5 minutes of angle I would guess. I will buy a knob somewhere or fab my own. My goal is...no screwdrivers to lock and unlock the adjustments on this sight.

    I am close now....

    The end product....

    Last edited by bubbapug1; 09-11-2016, 8:38 AM.
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    billped
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 2504

    If you posted the identical thread in two forums ... remove one.

    Bad form.
    Bill

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    • #3
      bubbapug1
      Calguns Addict
      • Nov 2008
      • 7958

      Seriously...are the the brain police or just so angry you search the site looking to create conflict?

      Some optics guys will never read a lever gun forum post. And this info is relevant to both selective groups. Stop being a moderator, you don't have the title or the mental discretion if you feel I violated some Calguns secret code. I'm just trying to cover two exclusive audiences with info they have asked about.

      It's not bad form. It's filling in the gaps.
      Last edited by bubbapug1; 09-10-2016, 9:41 PM.
      I love America for the rights and freedoms we used to have.

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      • #4
        Merc1138
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2009
        • 19742

        Originally posted by billped
        If you posted the identical thread in two forums ... remove one.

        Bad form.
        Your post was bad form.

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        • #5
          Archon_g24
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2014
          • 546

          Nice work, OP. I have Williams op sights on a couple of guns and pick up their target knobs off of eBay from time to time. Didn't know I could get them from Williams.
          NRA, CRPA, and RWVA member.

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          • #6
            Oceanbob
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jun 2010
            • 12720

            Bubbapug1......nice work my friend. You gave me some ideas....I had no clue
            Williams had these knob kits.

            I actually hate having to use a screwdriver to adjust the sight and would prefer
            Some knobs. I'am not sure but I suspect (after doing some research) that my
            Williams sight is meant for a 336 but it's installed on my 1894. This was on
            This new (to me) Rifle when I bought it 60 days ago. It appears a Smith drilled and tapped a mounting screw on the left side. My plan to order the knob kit and
            Go from there. A winter project........

            JM .44 magnum......

            Be well
            Bob




            May the Bridges I burn light the way.

            Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

            Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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            • #7
              bubbapug1
              Calguns Addict
              • Nov 2008
              • 7958

              Bob, it won't last the winter. In total it's a ten minute job!!

              Well worth the $18.00!!!
              I love America for the rights and freedoms we used to have.

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              • #8
                Oceanbob
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jun 2010
                • 12720

                Originally posted by bubbapug1
                Bob, it won't last the winter. In total it's a ten minute job!!

                Well worth the $18.00!!!
                I am on it Sir......

                Thanks again....

                Bob
                May the Bridges I burn light the way.

                Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

                Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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