FFP vs SFP question

[steelheadmike]

I'm in the process of trying to find a scope for mostly prairie dogs/squirrels/targets. I am looking at ffp and sfp models. I really like the added versatility of the FFP and that the holdover never changes. But, the apparent downside is that the reticle gets too large at magnification.

Here's my question: assuming I'm using a ffp and sfp at 20x for prairie dogs. The reticle sub tension thickness is 0.04 mil on both (the sfp is calibrated at 20x). Aren't they going to both cover the same amount of target? If I had to drop down to 16x, wouldn't the sfp cover more target than the ffp? Is the reticle size issue on the ffp really a "non-issue" in this situation because the reticle us tends at 0.04 at any mag?

Also, I'm not worried about having a small reticle on a ffp scope at low power. It will be cranked up as high as possible typically.

Thanks!!!

[Mute]

Are you sure about the .4 mil reticle thickness? That sounds extremely thick for an FFP scope. Obviously, on an SFP scope the higher up you move the magnification, the less of the target your reticle will cover and is one of he main reason some target shooters like SPF scopes, especially for known distance targets and a need for a finer point of aim.

[steelheadmike]

Are you sure about the .4 mil reticle thickness? That sounds extremely thick for an FFP scope. Obviously, on an SFP scope the higher up you move the magnification, the less of the target your reticle will cover and is one of he main reason some target shooters like SPF scopes, especially for known distance targets and a need for a finer point of aim.

0.04 mil, typo

Thanks

[smoothy8500]

I'm in the process of trying to find a scope for mostly prairie dogs/squirrels/targets.

Maybe you just really need a fine cross-hair reticle and dial in the correct elevation?

Or Leupold TMR Tactical Milling Reticle has fine cross-hairs with a small open circle in the center.

[HK Dave]

The thickness of the reticle at magnification would be the same in SFP vs FFP... so just choose one with subtensions small enough for you.

I know reticles like the Gen2XR have very fine subtensions... maybe something like that would work for you.

Just make sure when you're looking up the subtension chart for a particular scope... that it is for THAT particular scope and magnification.

Each manufacturer uses different subtensions for different scopes AND different magnification scopes.

[Yerman]

I don't think it's much of an issue. I would prefer to have FFP just so that if something came up close and you wanted to back down on magnification, you could maintain subtensions.

It's thicker on a FFP scope but not that big of a deal.

Try to shoot a buddies and see how you like it.

Not sure what your budget is but take a look at SWFA HD models. Their 5-20 is my next scope.

I also love my Vortex PST 4-14.

[Mute]

0.04 mil, typo

Thanks

Think of it this way. Even at 500 yard, that reticles is only covering up about 3/4 of an inch. Not really all that much. More than fine enough for a decent point of aim.

[NorCalFocus]

I was shooting 1/2" dots at 100 yards with my FFP last weekend. Non issues at all. Now maybe that 1/2" dot at 300+ yards would be hard to see.

After making the switch to FFP, I love it.

[FourT6and2]

I prefer FFP. Works better than SFP for what I need my scope to do. Reticle never gets in the way on any FFP scope I've used. I really like the Kahles SKMR2 reticle. But here's the Gen II XR in mys scope:

5X @ 100 yards:




12X @ 100 yards:




25X @ 100 yards: