Optic input

[Exodus343]

I'm between a kahles 624i and the gen 2 vortex razor HD

Can fellow members give inputs?

[JMP]

It is common for these two scopes to be compared as they are in a similar price range. They are both good scopes. Personally, if both have the specifications that meet your needs, weight is going to be the biggest noticable difference once you are setup. The Vortex is quite a bit heavier, about one pound.

[8mmFMJ]

Kahles design on the gen 3 k624i uses a different optical formula as of 2015 to get a wider FOV at all magnifications (6x has the same FOV as most 4/5x scopes).

Vortex is great, but old technology and as mentioned much heavier. If vortex were 200$ less for a FFP I would say get the vortex.

At the same price range get the Kahles.

[bigdawg86]

Just got my Kahles-k624i yesterday... So excited to shoot it. I went with SKMR 3 and even though I've only sniped my some trees from my backyard I like it alot.

My friend has the Vortex HD gen 2 and I am very curious to see it side by side... Word on the street the gen 3 Kahles-k624i has the edge over the Vortex.


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[8mmFMJ]

Get the 624 in MSRK

[KillZone45]

Vortex is great, but old technology and as mentioned much heavier. If vortex were 200$ less for a FFP I would say get the vortex.

At the same price range get the Kahles.

Surely you are joking right? The 3-18 and 4-27 are both new technology, they are Gen2 not the first Gen Razors. The Razors in 3-18x and 4-27x are both FFP.

[foxtrotuniformlima]

I went through the same thing last year and went with the Kahles due to the reticle - I really like the SKMR2

[8mmFMJ]

Surely you are joking right? The 3-18 and 4-27 are both new technology, they are Gen2 not the first Gen Razors. The Razors in 3-18x and 4-27x are both FFP.

New scope designs but not really new technology. I would still go for the Kahles.

And I know they are both FFP, I forgot the comma. If vortex were 200$ less, for a FFP I would get the vortex.

I'm just stating that if vortex had a little bit larger of a price gap then I would recommend the Vortex. But at similar prices get the Kahles.

[KillZone45]

New scope designs but not really new technology. I would still go for the Kahles.

And I know they are both FFP, I forgot the comma. If vortex were 200$ less, for a FFP I would get the vortex.

I'm just stating that if vortex had a little bit larger of a price gap then I would recommend the Vortex. But at similar prices get the Kahles.

I still think you are wrong. The Vortex scopes are pretty popular at shooting matches across the country. That being said you couldn't go wrong with either.

Street price on the Vortex is $2500 or less if bought new and looking at Euro Optic website their is a $500 difference between the Vortex 4.5-27x and the Kahles 624i. So the Vortex being priced at $2500 vs the Kahles $3000 your argument is invalid.

[JMP]

It's absurd to say that the Vortex Gen 2 is outdated/obsolete when it's not been out that long. That would be like saying that a Vectronix PLRF or Terrapin rangefinder is obsolete since they stopped their manufacturing of those models. The Vortex Gen 2s weren't made to compete with Hensoldts, rather, they were built to be great scopes at $2,500--that they are.

Having said that, I don't think the price difference justifies one over the other. I think they are close enough where one should pick his preferred scope of the two. It's a scope--they last a long time. There's no need to compromise if it's just a matter of a few hundred bucks when you are already planning on spending thousands.

[I_Rock_AR]

If money isn't an issue Kahles, if it is Vortex, but then again have to deal with weight.

[HK Dave]

Choose between the two based on reticle and whether you need certain options. Either will suit you fine.

[OpticsPlanet]

I would say the Kahles is a better scope...but is it $500 better?

That only you can decide. Like others said, reticle preference is probably the biggest determining factor.

Vortex Customer Service is above and beyond, which isn't usually taken into consideration until you need to utilize it.

Whats the intended firearm/application? Maybe that will help decide

-Matt S.

[bigdawg86]

I would say the Kahles is a better scope...but is it $500 better?

That only you can decide. Like others said, reticle preference is probably the biggest determining factor.

Vortex Customer Service is above and beyond, which isn't usually taken into consideration until you need to utilize it.

Whats the intended firearm/application? Maybe that will help decide

-Matt S.

Just got my scope from you guys 2,630 with the 12% off coupon... not bad, and puts it in closer price range to the Vortex. The Kahles SKMR reticles are awesome.

[ExtremeX]

Two scopes I would love to use side by side... I think you should just look at the overall feature set and make a determination based on preference.

Personally...

If weight was an issue I would get the Kahles but I don't think I could pull the trigger on one without using it first... the parallax adjustment directly under the elevation is something new to me I would have to try first hand to see if its something I like... but I'm sure I can always work myself into it.

Vortex for me would be the "safe" pick... I can save a few bucks, and its a company I've owned stuff from before and so my expectations are pretty dialed in. I've dealt with their customer service department once and the experience really inspired confidence so I would get the warm and fuzzy about throwing $2500 into their pockets...