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  • CouchOperator
    Veteran Member
    • May 2016
    • 4353

    Optic for AR10.

    Lets say you wanted to set up a 16" AR10 in .308, for "go to hell and back" reliability. Use would consist of 0-600 meters. Budget allows for $2,500, but wouldnt mind spending less to buy moar gun foodz. With weight somewhat in mind, what would you buy?
  • #2
    Whatisthis?
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 1820

    Depends on how accurate you want to be at different distances and how fast you want it to be up close.

    If you want it to be really accurate with fantastic speed at closer distances, you are probably looking for something like a 2.5-10x plus a red dot on the side/top.

    If you want really accurate and up close isn't as important, maybe just stick with a 2.5-10x.

    If you want pretty fast up close and decent magnification for long distances, I would look at 1-8x scopes, or even the Kahles 1-6x.

    With any ONE optic, you are going to be trying to balance what the optic is good at with what you want. Do the scope and red dot combo, and you have the best of both.

    As far as optics. Maybe a Nightforce 2.5-10x (I don't think they have a FFP model if that matters to you). Or less expensive, a Vortex Viper PST 2.5-10.

    For red dots at 45 degrees or on top, I think you pretty much have to go with the Aimpoint T1/H1/T2/H2 for durability, battery life, and quality of optic.

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    • #3
      Mr310
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2011
      • 5692

      I admittedly have very little experience, but for hell and back reliability, I think the ACOG may be the one to beat. There are documented cases of IEDs destroying M4s and M16s while the ACOG attached to them was still serviceable.
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      • #4
        CSTactical
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Sep 2007
        • 4089

        A Kahles 1-6 or Minox 1-8 would be a great Low Power Variable for that setup. We were discussing it here yesterday: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1213511
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        • #5
          Tract Optics
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2016
          • 32

          Another vote for the 2.5-10x NF. Its just tough as hell. I hunted with one and had bubba drop it off a tailgate and land right on the turret...next shot at 225yds was a lung heart lung...
          It just keeps working.
          Trevor
          Tract Optics
          www.TractOptics.com

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          • #6
            gman183
            Member
            • Apr 2006
            • 295

            Vortex!!

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            • #7
              avg.joe
              Banned
              • May 2012
              • 51

              Nice choices.

              A good .308 can be great in a squad to have someone with knockdown power, while others have their rigs set up & used in the most suitable manner, from sniping to rushing.

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              • #8
                CouchOperator
                Veteran Member
                • May 2016
                • 4353

                Thanks for all the suggestions. Going shooting in a week and going to try a friends gen 2 razor 1-6 on it. Ill see how it is. Ultimately its going to be a heavy rig, but if it balances the gun well, then maybe ill just have to suck it up.

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                • #9
                  KillZone45
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 2570

                  Go with an optic with some range and a red dot for close up. Best of both worlds IMO
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                  • #10
                    CouchOperator
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2016
                    • 4353

                    Originally posted by KillZone45
                    Go with an optic with some range and a red dot for close up. Best of both worlds IMO
                    I think that would be a good compromise, a US Optics LR17 and an Aimpoint Comp M4s both on QD mounts. Maybe get one of the new Aimpoint 6x magnifiers as well. Picking optics for a 16" AR15 is easy, but ive never been this unsure since this is my first AR10. The rifle is an LMT LM8MWS

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                    • #11
                      JMP
                      Internet Warrior
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 17056

                      Originally posted by CouchOperator
                      Lets say you wanted to set up a 16" AR10 in .308, for "go to hell and back" reliability. Use would consist of 0-600 meters. Budget allows for $2,500, but wouldnt mind spending less to buy moar gun foodz. With weight somewhat in mind, what would you buy?
                      It's just a 16" AR so it means you will be shooting short to intermediate range up to about 600 yards. Therefore, I'd go with the ACOG. It gives you enough magnification (~4x) for the longer range and you can still see closer objects pretty well. If it is a 24" barrel, then I'd be swayed to go to more of a scope.

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                      • #12
                        KillZone45
                        Veteran Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 2570

                        Originally posted by CouchOperator
                        I think that would be a good compromise, a US Optics LR17 and an Aimpoint Comp M4s both on QD mounts. Maybe get one of the new Aimpoint 6x magnifiers as well. Picking optics for a 16" AR15 is easy, but ive never been this unsure since this is my first AR10. The rifle is an LMT LM8MWS
                        Thats not what I meant. A scope with a red dot at a 45*. No QD BS. Both optics on the gun at the same time.
                        Nikita Khrushchev said"We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism. "

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                        • #13
                          epilepticninja
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 4166

                          ACOG LED 3 x 3.5 chevron. It is what I have on my .308 14.5" Bushy ORC.
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                          • #14
                            CouchOperator
                            Veteran Member
                            • May 2016
                            • 4353

                            Originally posted by KillZone45
                            Thats not what I meant. A scope with a red dot at a 45*. No QD BS. Both optics on the gun at the same time.
                            Ah. Idk, having a full scope with a red dot offset just seems like a lot of stuff.

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                            • #15
                              valken
                              Member
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 106

                              IMHO the perfect choice would be the Leupold 1.1-8 MK8 you can find them for sale in your price range. Liberty optics have them in the $2499 if I remember. If you can find one in the desired price range the S&B 1-8 Short dot would be another great choice. There are other 1-8 products out there but these are my personal favorites.
                              Last edited by valken; 07-10-2016, 12:21 PM.

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