Sub $250 Scope With MOA Reticle

[killemall419]

What options are out there for a scope with an MOA reticle under the $250 mark? It will be going on a 10/22 to learn and get familiar with using a subtended reticle. I want something on the lower end side price wise to learn on the 10/22 then eventually I'll move into the next tiers of rifle caliber and scope. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.

[FMJBT]

Redfield 3-9X40 Revolution TAC, $20.00 over budget, but probably the best option available in a similar price range:

http://swfa.com/Redfield-3-9x40-Revolution-TAC-Rifle-Scope-P68043.aspx

[ExtremeX]

Does it have to be MOA? You might have an easier time finding something with a MIL reticle. End of the day it really doesn't matter, and if you are concerned with the 1" @ 100 yards math, its good to stop thinking in that manner when it comes to optics, distance, and correction. If you can use one, you can use the other.

This is what poped into my head at that price range...
Bushnell Elite 3200 Tactical Rifle Scope 10x 40mm (mil/mil)

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/950843/bushnell-elite-3200-tactical-rifle-scope-10x-40mm-1-10-mil-adjustments-mil-dot-reticle-matte

For a little more, or if you wait for a sale, the SWFA fixed 6x, 10x, 12x, and 20x can be had for around the same price. $300 regular, and also is a much better scope than the Bushnell. Its also something you can move to a target rifle as you move forward.

More important than just focusing on the reticle would be to opt for something that might even have a turret graduated in the same unit... Things start to make more sense when those two things line up with each other.

Another school if thought I have always had with scopes is don't be afraid to spend for something decent. Good scopes do a tremendous job of maintaining their value over time, they really are an investment all things considered.

When I decommissioned my 10/22 trainer, I ended up just moving the scope around to something else as it was a keeper. Another decent scope I had I sold for the same price I paid after 2 years of use...

[JMP]

I have a fixed 12x on my .22lr target rifle and a 1-6x on my .22lr semiautomatic rifle. You will find a lot of options for a .22lr inside of your budget as you don't need the rock solid scopes that you'll want on larger centerfire cartridges--it's the construction that adds a lot to the price of a scope. For shooting paper, I want the higher magnification, but for shooting steels and such with a semiautomatic .22lr, 1-4x or 1-6x are kind of handy.

[Carcassonne]

Redfield 3-9X40 Revolution TAC, $20.00 over budget, but probably the best option available in a similar price range:

http://swfa.com/Redfield-3-9x40-Revo...pe-P68043.aspx

Redfield makes good scopes.


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[killemall419]

Thank you everyone for the responses. I was wanting to go MOA to get used to it for future endeavors. I've never seen a scope with an MOA reticle and MIL knobs, so I was assuming (probably incorrectly) that the reticle and knobs would match, which is what I would prefer. The redfield is the scope I've been looking at and was just interested if anyone had any other good options in that range. It will probably just be a paper puncher to start, so the more magnification the better, in theory. Obviously clarity would matter. I usually only shop for mid range so something slightly on the low side isn't something I've researched. As a comparison, I already own a vortex PST 2.5-10, HS-T 4-16, and a Burris XTR II 5-25, all MOA reticle, so the consistency of what I'm used to, reticle wise, would be a benefit, also. So, any other good options out there? Again, thank you everyone for all of the help so far.

[ExtremeX]

Thank you everyone for the responses. I was wanting to go MOA to get used to it for future endeavors. I've never seen a scope with an MOA reticle and MIL knobs, so I was assuming (probably incorrectly) that the reticle and knobs would match, which is what I would prefer. The redfield is the scope I've been looking at and was just interested if anyone had any other good options in that range. It will probably just be a paper puncher to start, so the more magnification the better, in theory. Obviously clarity would matter. I usually only shop for mid range so something slightly on the low side isn't something I've researched. As a comparison, I already own a vortex PST 2.5-10, HS-T 4-16, and a Burris XTR II 5-25, all MOA reticle, so the consistency of what I'm used to, reticle wise, would be a benefit, also. So, any other good options out there? Again, thank you everyone for all of the help so far.

Depending on where you look, its actually not that hard to find a knob / reticle mismatch... The Millet TRS-1 and even the MOA version of the classic SWFA SS scopes are both available with a mil-dot reticle and 1/4 MOA turrets...

If you already have the scopes listed above then I presume this isn't necessarily a learning exercise as you mentioned you want to get familiar with using a subtended reticle? You can do that with any of the other scopes you already have... Aside from making note of what those subtensions are, and at what magnification if its a SFP optic, they all work the same... You learn one, (MIL or MOA), you learned them all...

If you want a higher mag scope, and you are shopping for a .22 LR, one of the most important things I have come across is actually having a parallax adjustment, and making sure that adjustment actually gets down into that 25 yard area.

Its good to note that fixed parallax scopes are generally set at 100 for centerfire, and 50 yards for rimfire specific models.

[killemall419]

ExtremeX,
Thank you for all the help and advice. You are correct, I already am familiar with the MOA reticle and subtensions, as well as how they relate to an angle of measurement. I also understand MIL subtensions. This scope is for a friend that is just getting into shooting and wants to learn on his .22 to get comfortable then move up to something nicer, rifle and scope wise. That's why I'm kinda all over the place with this. He is picking his 10/22 up on Friday and was hoping I'd have some suggestions on a scope in a comparable price range to the rifle. I think the redfield with the TAC-MOA reticle might just be the ticket he's looking for, hopefully.

[ExtremeX]

Bottom line the Redfield TAC MOA is a 1" tube hunting scope without side parallax and some short knobs popped on to it. Not really designed to dial a bunch, which is generally true for most hunting scopes in that price bracket. Parallax is also fixed at 100. Will work, but not ideal.

Even though I generally don't recommend this optic, the Primary Arms 4-14 would probably be a better bet. At least it has side parallax down to 10 yards and more than adequate for a rimfire. But again, you need to open options to things aside from MOA as that is a MRAD based scope.

I really don't see the struggle or need to have to limit yourself regarding the unit of measurement... If anything I find the MRAD based systems easier to use and that's coming from someone who started as a diehard MOA person as well.

Now I have both, use both, and its really a non issue until you start shopping for support gear like a reticle based spotter... it either gets real expensive to support both, or you have a harder time finding MOA based items. If you are trying to standardize for that reason I completely get it but it sounds like this scope is going to have a short life as its a trainer/starter... That said its also nice when a friend is spotting through their rifle scope to call correction, its also nice running the same units in that scenario as well.

[killemall419]

ExtremeX,
Again, thank you for the helpful insight and suggestions. I'm pretty stuck on the MOA reticle to help get my friend familiar with a common system I am using. I think the 100 yard parallax and short knobs shouldn't be an issue, due to it being a .22 and it won't be shot extensively past 200 yards. I can also use the reticle for holdover instead of dialing also, hopefully helping him familiarize himself with a reticle of any kind. I definitely want to stick with MOA for commonality with my rifles.

[ejhc11]

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