Scope for .338 LM Savage

[DefendersOfValda]

Leupold VX-3i Target Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 6.5-20x 50mm Side Focus Custom Dial System Matte

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/137137/leupold-vx-3i-target-rifle-scope-30mm-tube-65-20x-50mm-side-focus-custom-dial-system-matte

I have been looking at the more expensive long range scopes from Leupold($1800), NF($2300), and Huskamaw($1500 or $2500), but can't get away from this more affordable scope.

Aside from having mixed mil reticle and MOA turrets, it seems to have what is needed. Approx 70moa of elevation. On a 20moa mount. Lots of room for long range.

Custom reticles available at Leupold Custom. Can put M1 turrets on too, which I like better than the target turrets it comes with.

Any comments about flaws with this for extreme long range.

If I just use the CDS a regular crosshair reticle should work just as well as one with marks, seems to me.

[DefendersOfValda]

Additionally, im shopping bipods.

I dont want external springs. Adustable in the 9 to 16 inch area.

It seems that the offerings go from $25 for cheap chinese pods, then jumps to $200 range for Atlas or Harris pods.

Any suggestions?

[PrimaryArms]

This is coming!

http://www.primaryarms.com/pa6-30x56ffp-deka-ams/p/pa6-30x56ffp-deka-ams/

[PrimaryArms]

[Thanatos2203]

OP, for around the same price could get you into a Vortex Viper PST or a Burris XTR II. Both have Mil/Mil FFP options and are sort of kings of the circa $1000 pricepoint. You could also get a bit more magnification up to around 25x and illuminated reticles which I find incredibly useful in low light.

As far as bipods are concerned, for a long range set up I think Atlas is the most versatile package, really love mine and have used all of its features.

[DefendersOfValda]

Actually, the Harris pods are priced right.

Need to find a model without external springs, tho.

Looks like they don't exist.

Atlas have models without springs. Might just have to bump up budget on that.

[DefendersOfValda]

So im looking at the Vortex PST, as suggested.

It has 19mrads of adjustment. Just double checking math. That's 19 yards of adjustment at 1000 yards?

And you're sure that clarity and the glass quality is equal to the Leupold?

I like that its illuminated, and has a simple tactical mil reticle.

I guess I could sell it, if it sucks.

[DefendersOfValda]

Where does one get this part?

A clamp that attaches to tripod.



Got the pic from Vortex site

[Socalmp5]

So im looking at the Vortex PST, as suggested.

It has 19mrads of adjustment. Just double checking math. That's 19 yards of adjustment at 1000 yards?

And you're sure that clarity and the glass quality is equal to the Leupold?

I like that its illuminated, and has a simple tactical mil reticle.

I guess I could sell it, if it sucks.

Well cut that 19 in half and that's how much up you have. Look into a bushnell elite tactical. A great scope for that would be a vortex razor gen 2

[DefendersOfValda]

Well cut that 19 in half and that's how much up you have. Look into a bushnell elite tactical. A great scope for that would be a vortex razor gen 2

Really, even if its mounted looking down. On a canted rail?

Anyway, found out that the high end Bushnells are really whats left if the B&L scopes. I wondered where they went.

Still, if im working my budget up to or past the 2K mark, im looking at different scopes than Bushnell.

Ill look at.the Razor.

[MongooseV8]

If a scope has 100 moa of total travel, and you have it mounted on a 20 moa base; you are likely to get a total of 60 usable up compensation in total.

100 moa - 50 up and 50 down.

You almost never get all 50% due to slop and windage position, leaving you with roughly 40% of actual dope. Then add your base cant.

[DefendersOfValda]

And zeroing at 200 or 300 increases your max distance?

[JMP]

And zeroing at 200 or 300 increases your max distance?

Yes, but it is almost neglible at 200 or 300 yards. It'll probably give you 1 MOA more at 200 and 3 MOA more at 300. Having a lot of elevation range is important if you plan on shooting at very long ranges. Because the Lapua magnum doesn't have extreme velocity, but it has a very efficient bullet, it is still travelling at distances that require a lot of elevation. You need to figure on having ~20 mil up to get to one mile (~70 MOA). Some people get their Lapuas beyond 2k, and then you are looking at 25-30 mil (~90-110 MOA).

I think the proposed scope in the OP is a poor choice for most 338 Lapuas. Not only does it lack elevation, it does not have exposed turrets to dial and it looks a bit flimsy. For a 338 Lapua, on a budget, I'd recommend the Vortex Razor Gen II 4.5-27 as it has good functionality and quality, a lot of elevation range, and it is durable.

[MongooseV8]

Zero range will not affect your total drop compensation. You will still run out of elevation at the same distance, all other factors being the same.

[ifilef]

I think there's a lot of good info on Sniper 101 vids on YouTube by TiborasaurusRex.

He says one should have matching reticle to turrets for long range shooting. Otherwise, the matter is even more complicated when it need not be.

If I were to do long range, I'd first go inexpensive with a quality scope for $299, mil-mil or moa-moa setup, SWFA SS 10x. That price is on the SWFA site. I recall that scope has a substantial elevation range (140 120 MOA) and passed military trials.

He also has recommendations for significantly more expensive scopes in the numerous 101 vids.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJUaiRIEduNXoal2_PkBZi0vDCIcEPxUn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX3hLSI59ko

SWFA:
10x review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nky0voYC7gQ

Armslist 10x review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA0IC12fnMA

mil-mil: http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-10x42-Tactic...pe-P53712.aspx

moa-moa: http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-10x42-Tactic...pe-P87718.aspx

Background of SS scopes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?annota...&v=9fe4l_CAthI