1-4 variable scope - cost versus quality

[peetul83]

Hey guys- about to get my feet wet in the low power variable scope realm. I've been looking at the Vortex Viper Pst 1-4 scope for awhile and was dead set on getting one. However, the Trijicon Accupower 1-4 has also been catching my eye lately which is a bit on the higher range of what I want to spend. Does anybody have experience on both? Is the Accupoint's glass that much better than the Vortex's to justify spending more?

[Paperchasin]

I've had both.. Accupower wins hands down. But it is a little more expensive. The PST is also good, but if budget permits, I'd go Trijicon. I sold my PST fyi.

[SuperSet]

BTW, the AccuPoint and AccuPower are different scopes. The AccuPower is the newer battery-powered one with all the different reticles. Not daylight bright.
The AccuPoint is the older fiber optic, tritium powered one with a smaller selection of reticles. Daylight bright.

[peetul83]

Sorry I mean Accupower- specifically looking at the segmented BDC reticle.

[Paperchasin]

BTW, the AccuPoint and AccuPower are different scopes. The AccuPower is the newer battery-powered one with all the different reticles. Not daylight bright.
The AccuPoint is the older fiber optic, tritium powered one with a smaller selection of reticles. Daylight bright.

I've also had both the Accupoint and Accupower 1-4x scopes and both are nearly identical in terms of glass and optical quality.

[toiletfighter]

I had a Viper PST 1-4, but traded it for ammo. Great optic for the price and the Vortex VIP warranty is unbeatable. Never shot with the Trijicon, but in handling them I'd say they're noticeably clearer and the reticle is what I call "crisp", no blurring that I noticed. If you have extra coin I'd go for the Trijicon, and if its not to your liking you can always sell it and buy the Vortex.

I now own two Leatherwood CMR4 1-4 optics and have been very happy with them. One on a 5.56 AR and another on a x39 AK. Decent glass, positive turret clicks, holds and returns to zero reliably. For the purpose they serve I'm satisfied.

[Horrendo Revolver]

The Trijicon is definitely worth the extra money to me.

[manuelcardenas77]

I'm in the same boat for my Scar 17. This will also be my first scope type of optic. I will admit the acog is tempting but that's another $3xx at least

[Caseless]

Given the two choices, if you plan to engage lots of targets at varying distances as fast as possible, get the BDC reticle scope, AccuPower w/segmented reticle. I think it's calibrated specifically for M193 out to 600yds.
Else it doesn't matter performace-wise since the reticles on both are non-illuminated on a bright day.

[DrewTheBrave]

While I don't have experience with either of those scopes, I was cross-shopping with Vortex PST 1-4x and 2.5-10x with the Leupold VXR Patrol in 1-4x and 3-9x. Ultimately the Leupold fit more in line with what I wanted (lightweight, MIL/MIL, quality glass). I ended up buying the VXR Patrol in 3-9x, and like it well enough that I will eventually get a VXR (non Patrol for capped turrets) in 1-4x.

I'm not saying the Leupold is better, but it might be an option you'd like to consider.

[ExtremeX]

I have used and owned a LOT of low power variables... and owned a 1-4x PST even before that market segment got popular and flooded with different options...

Even to this day with all the other more budget minded options and in the $500 and under bracket, the 1-4x PST is still one of the best scopes I have come across and still shines but its not perfect either.

The fiber optic version of the Triicon scopes was also awesome but its setup in a totally different manner. Capper turrets without a BDC limited its use in comparison but from a glass and build quality standpoint I would day it was nicer than the PST, but I found the PST more useful due to how it was setup with a mil scale reticle and exposed turrets. The Trijicon however was daylight visible and the PST was not in bright sun....

I haven't got my hands on the AccuPower yet, but I am so happy to see they have much better reticle designs now, but I am curious if its daylight bright.

If you can afford the Trijicon, its worth a try assuming its setup in a manner that works for your style of shooting. I till dial correction often, and exposed turrets of the PST and SWFA 1-6x scopes have worked well for me.

[SuperSet]

The RS24 is not daylight bright so it will wash out in bright sunlight.

[Yerman]

I have been researching 1-4 power scopes for about a month now. I finally decided on the SWFA Super Sniper 1-4 for my 300BO build.

http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-1-4x24-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-Kit-P85632.aspx

Couple reasons...
- Price vs quality ratio seems to be very high
- Had to have Mil marks, not BDC (although the PST also has Mil marks)
- Had to have exposed tactical turrets
- With a quality mount, it had to be under $400

Although this is a little bit more than $400, I can justify spending the extra money.

About the PST, I have two. the 6-24 and the 4-16 model. Both in FFP. They are great but i had a few issues with quality control on the 4-16 model and I want to give the SS scopes a shot. Everyone speaks very highly of them.

[m850168]

While I don't have experience with either of those scopes, I was cross-shopping with Vortex PST 1-4x and 2.5-10x with the Leupold VXR Patrol in 1-4x and 3-9x. Ultimately the Leupold fit more in line with what I wanted (lightweight, MIL/MIL, quality glass). I ended up buying the VXR Patrol in 3-9x, and like it well enough that I will eventually get a VXR (non Patrol for capped turrets) in 1-4x.

I'm not saying the Leupold is better, but it might be an option you'd like to consider.

Second vote to consider the Leupold VXR 1-4x with Firedot; and also to look outside the Patrol line for capped turrets.

I have a Bushnell 1-4x illuminated (FFP) and it's not really daytime-bright, so using it like a red dot on 1x does not work well. I also have a VXR 3-9x Patrol and the firedot is very bright. Also, I believe the SFP works better in a 1-4x scope because the reticle is still easy to locate without illumination on 1x - my Bushnell is a tiny black circle on 1x, slow to pick up.

[Click Boom]

If you're just shooting out to 300-400 yards and want lightweight, buy the one in my sig and spend the rest on ammo