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  • Yerman
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 1396

    Help finding a scope for 300 blackout build

    I really don't like any kind of BDC reticles so I'm having a hard time finding something that will work for me.

    I'd like a 1-4 or a 1-6 zoom with mil dots. Does anyone make one in the <$500 price range?

    FFP if possible.
    Last edited by Yerman; 04-24-2016, 6:47 PM.
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    MongooseV8
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 4426

    FFP for less than $500 is gonna be tough.

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      PrimaryArms
      Vendor/Retailer
      • Jun 2011
      • 2676

      Originally posted by Yerman
      Thanks, sorry, I forgot to mention I would like FFP.

      Also, I don't want a reticle that has BDC. If it's off a little bit, it's basically useless. Mil dots are always going to be Mil dots.


      Your not finding anything ffp at that price range. BDC is ideal for a 300bo. I would use mils for a precision rifle shooting past 600
      www.primaryarms.com

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        PrimaryArms
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Jun 2011
        • 2676

        Originally posted by Yerman
        What bullet weight and velocity is your BDC set for?


        What bullet and fps are u using?
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          PrimaryArms
          Vendor/Retailer
          • Jun 2011
          • 2676

          Originally posted by Yerman
          110gr ~2300 fps on my latest batch. I sometimes load 125 gr ~ 2100 fps. I'd like to load some heavier bullets, maybe 150 gr, but haven't yet and don't know what velocity I will get yet.


          What bullet?
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            Yerman
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 1396

            110gr ~2300 fps on my latest batch. I sometimes load 125 gr ~ 2100 fps. I'd like to load some heavier bullets, maybe 150 gr, but haven't yet and don't know what velocity I will get yet.

            Bullets I am currently loading with:

            110 gr Hornady V-max, Hornady 110 gr SP #3010, Sierra 110 gr HP #2110, Sierra 125 gr SPT #2120, Sierra 150 gr FMJBT 2115.
            Last edited by Yerman; 04-24-2016, 6:48 PM.

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              PrimaryArms
              Vendor/Retailer
              • Jun 2011
              • 2676




              Here are a bunch of loads that line up.
              On the vmax dial 1/4" high and your on to make up for the 50fps difference but personally I would dial in normal maintaining a higher center mass hit ratio.
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                Yerman
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 1396

                I guess I don't understand why make a reticle that only works with a handful of bullets and veocities for a round that probably has more bullet weights and powder charges than any other round out there. It severely limits the optics ability to work accurately with a variety of different bullet and powder combinations.

                Why not a chevron/circle for CQB accompanied by Mil or MOA marks that could be used for any combination of bullet/velocity?

                My understanding is that Vortex has a reticle on their Viper PST (TMCQ Mrad) for this exact reason.

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                  PrimaryArms
                  Vendor/Retailer
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 2676

                  Originally posted by Yerman
                  I guess I don't understand why make a reticle that only works with a handful of bullets and veocities for a round that probably has more bullet weights and powder charges than any other round out there. It severely limits the optics ability to work accurately with a variety of different bullet and powder combinations.

                  Why not a chevron/circle for CQB accompanied by Mil or MOA marks that could be used for any combination of bullet/velocity?

                  My understanding is that Vortex has a reticle on their Viper PST (TMCQ Mrad) for this exact reason.

                  The viper pst is $800+ if your set on mil/mil and stay in budget look at the ACSS Rgrid $279.99

                  Primary Arms features our own line of AR 15 and AK 47 parts, accessories, scopes, optics and red dot sights.







                  But what you really need is this but up to you.





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                  • #11
                    PrimaryArms
                    Vendor/Retailer
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 2676

                    Originally posted by Yerman
                    Thank you for the info. I'll watch videos.


                    What rifle is this for?
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                    • #12
                      Yerman
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 1396

                      Anyone have any experience with the:

                      Viper PST 1-4X24 with the TMCQ (MRAD) scope? http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/...eticle/reticle

                      I know it's not FFP but it looks very nice for the money and I have a 4-16 PST on another AR that I love.

                      This will be going on a 300 blackout AR with 16" barrel.



                      Or maybe the Leupold 1.5-4x20mm Leupold Mark AR Mod 1 Riflescope - https://www.leupold.com/hunting-shoo...-1-1-5-4x20mm/
                      Last edited by Yerman; 04-24-2016, 6:58 PM.

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                        MarikinaMan
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                        • Nov 2015
                        • 4864

                        Do you really need FFP for a 1-4x? Just use it as a red dot at 1x, and then gather your dope at 4X.

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                          Yerman
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 1396

                          Originally posted by MarikinaMan
                          Do you really need FFP for a 1-4x? Just use it as a red dot at 1x, and then gather your dope at 4X.
                          I'm beginning to come to that conclusion myself. I'll either have it at 1 or 4...at 1, I won't need the hash marks.

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                            FMJBT
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