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  • baddos
    Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 295

    Need ACOG tips for aligning my eye

    I just got a new ACOG TA11J for my 308 AR type rifle and without the rear iron sight, it's hard for me to reliably align my eye with the new scope to be sure I'm centered up.

    The eye relief is kind of short with this ACOG, so I have it all the way back on the receiver which leaves no room for the rear backup iron sight I would normally use to get used to it.

    Anyone experience this and have some tips I could use?
  • #2
    FeuerFrei
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2008
    • 7455

    "alignment"?
    Lets assume you're using the OEM mount.
    Looking through it with both eyes open. Find target. Magnified eye sees the reticle on target and press trigger at opportune time.

    It's really that simple unless you have a whacky height on the mount on something I can't imagine.
    I've had a ta11 on a 556 AR clone for some years now and after very little practice it's as easy as can be.
    Shoot it and let your eyes/mind adjust to it.

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    • #3
      Need More Ammo
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 538

      TA11 has some of the best eye relief for any of the ACOGs. Just put your cheek on the stock and place optic where you can see reticle.

      Idk what you mean by aligning except being able to replicate cheek weld over and over again. That comes with practice.

      Go out and shoot it! Bring rifle up to shooting position, fire one shot, bring back down to low ready, repeat!

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      • #4
        essjay
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2014
        • 1429

        Originally posted by baddos
        The eye relief is kind of short with this ACOG
        Not really. I tried one out (returned it because it had a weird defect on the objective), and I thought it had great eye relief - perfect when I had it mounted as far forward on the receiver as possible, shooting NTCH.

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        • #5
          baddos
          Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 295

          I mean horizontal alignment, the vertical is fine with the stock mount. The eye relief is small for me as I have the stock in the farthest position for my LOP which makes it necessary to put the scope in the back of the upper receiver before the fov starts to get wonky.

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          • #6
            Merc1138
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2009
            • 19742

            Originally posted by baddos
            I mean horizontal alignment, the vertical is fine with the stock mount. The eye relief is small for me as I have the stock in the farthest position for my LOP which makes it necessary to put the scope in the back of the upper receiver before the fov starts to get wonky.
            FeuerFrei's response is still correct. You need consistency.

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            • #7
              baddos
              Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 295

              I'm not sure what you mean by neck cranking. The height of the site is fine, but I find that I'm not consistently getting the same cheek weld on the stock which is causing my eye not to be aligned properly in the horizontal plane.

              So basically I'll end up shooting either left or right of where I should be causing inconsistent results. I'm looking for tips that can help me get a repeatable performance, I can see the reticle and target fine.

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              • #8
                FeuerFrei
                Calguns Addict
                • Aug 2008
                • 7455

                Originally posted by baddos
                I'm not sure what you mean by neck cranking. The height of the site is fine, but I find that I'm not consistently getting the same cheek weld on the stock which is causing my eye not to be aligned properly in the horizontal plane.

                So basically I'll end up shooting either left or right of where I should be causing inconsistent results. I'm looking for tips that can help me get a repeatable performance, I can see the reticle and target fine.
                May I suggest it's a fundamentals issue and not sight issue.
                Any decent instructor should be able to get you squared away with proper cheek weld in no time.
                Maybe one will chime in. Not prodding you, just trying to be objective.

                or
                Could be the stock isn't right for you as is and if you cannot adjust to it you may need something else.

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                • #9
                  baddos
                  Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 295

                  I don't think it is an issue with the optic, it looks great to be honest. I know the issue is 100% me, I am asking for tips on how to align myself with the sight.

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                  • #10
                    Merc1138
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 19742

                    Originally posted by baddos
                    I don't think it is an issue with the optic, it looks great to be honest. I know the issue is 100% me, I am asking for tips on how to align myself with the sight.
                    Practice.

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                    • #11
                      teflondog
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 4011

                      Practice will make you accustomed to getting a good sight picture at speed. Shooting NTCH is helpful for this.

                      Keep in mind that an ACOG is a combat optic and not a precision optic, so you don't have to worry about being perfectly centered.
                      Originally posted by G. Michael Hopf
                      Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.

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                      • #12
                        Sniper3142
                        Veteran Member
                        • May 2004
                        • 2579

                        Originally posted by baddos
                        I don't think it is an issue with the optic, it looks great to be honest. I know the issue is 100% me, I am asking for tips on how to align myself with the sight.
                        Originally posted by Merc1138
                        Practice.
                        Proper Practice.

                        OP... find a shooting range that offers rifle shooting instruction. You should also be able to "Google" it as well. A little proper training will aid you a lot in getting a consistent cheek weld and proper sight alignment.
                        Internet Talk is Cheap

                        Man Up, Show Up, or Shut the @#$! Up.

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C74HgbjSCLM

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                        • #13
                          thegamettt
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 2628

                          sounds like you need some muscle memory. keep going from low ready to sight in, over and over and over until you automatically get a clear sight picture every time. Do you have optics on any other firearms?
                          Have a good day!

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                          • #14
                            baddos
                            Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 295

                            This is my first magnified optic, previously used iron sights and red dots so it didn't matter or if it did it was obvious to tell if I was misaligned.

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                            • #15
                              timbo399
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 1765

                              I'm sure w practice and/or instruction you'll be gtg. I have a TA11 on my SCAR 17 and at the time that was my first optic of any type as used Irons on all my rifles previously- just takes some getting used to--

                              At least you picked the ACOG known for the longer eye relief- TA11 much better eye relief than other models I had tried. Not sure if you have it on QD mount or not, if not I'd say ditch the back up irons if getting in your way- nice thing about ACOG is it will take any beating and won't go down on you.

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