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  • bk23103
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 1088

    Who makes the best bootleg ACOG?

    While I'd love to have a true Trijicon ACOG scope for my M&P 15, I don't want to shell out $1200+ to get one. This "BD Tactical" deal on Amazon costs a tenth of the price and has decent reviews. Anyone have any experience here with this scope, or can you suggest something comparable?

  • #2
    LBDamned
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2011
    • 19040

    ACOG doesn't cost a lot because of the way it looks...

    If you want decent optics, you simply won't find them cheap. It really is that cut & dry.

    If you want replica and don't care about function - any knock-off is as good as another.
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    • #3
      LBDamned
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2011
      • 19040

      Originally posted by InsanePropane
      Get a Bushnell trs-25 if you want an optic for cheap that won't break.
      Maybe a vortex sparc
      Apparently he wants magnification.
      "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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      • #4
        Stanze
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 3301

        I have a Trijicon ACOG (M16A4 model) and love it.

        However, If I didn't want to spend the money for an ACOG and still want weapons grade ACOG performance similar to ACOG.

        I'd consider this: http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-a...le/p/kt-pac5x/

        Or this: http://www.atibalsights.com/products...iant=779820997

        Edge goes to the Primary Arms for their patented ACSS reticle. Even Trijicon uses it on their latest ACOG models under license.
        Constitutionally, officials cannot license or register a fundamental right.

        "It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority." - Benjamin Franklin


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        • #5
          tnlrat37
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 2166

          Just be patient, I got a ta33 here in the marketplace for 650$ last year, not a scratch on it barely a year old.
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          • #6
            Kwikvette
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2015
            • 3704

            Sold two of my Acogs recently; one for $850 the other for $800.

            Look around and wait a bit and get yourself the real deal.

            Btw, I too have an M&P and it wears an Acog; nothing wrong with having glass that costs more than the rifle. In fact, that's the norm in most cases!
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            my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
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            • #7
              AreWeFree
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 4558

              Originally posted by Stanze
              I have a Trijicon ACOG (M16A4 model) and love it.

              However, If I didn't want to spend the money for an ACOG and still want weapons grade ACOG performance similar to ACOG.

              I'd consider this: http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-a...le/p/kt-pac5x/

              Or this: http://www.atibalsights.com/products...iant=779820997

              Edge goes to the Primary Arms for their patented ACSS reticle. Even Trijicon uses it on their latest ACOG models under license.
              I thought Primary Arms just ordered enough for a custom run and you can only buy that model from their website. Not knocking it, but it's a big difference, like how Brownells had a custom run of "zombie reticule" eotechs.

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              • #8
                LBDamned
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2011
                • 19040

                Just wait for Trijicon to get sued by the gubbermint - then it's not the hawt damn thing everyone said it was

                In the mean time - its operator status and non-operators need an operator-like status sight... So... Carry-on
                "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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                • #9
                  BradeRunner
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2015
                  • 125

                  Why don't more people just use tried and true optics.

                  $1200 buys one a lot of Leupold, Zeiss, or even Nikon scope.

                  99.99% of these tactical scopes will never see a tactical situation.

                  You would have a very tough time making an argument that the Trijicon glass is superior to Nikon, Leupold, or Zeiss glass.
                  Last edited by BradeRunner; 01-03-2016, 9:56 AM.

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                  • #10
                    tonyxcom
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 6397

                    Originally posted by BradeRunner
                    Why don't more people just use tried and true optics.
                    You mean like an ACOG?

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                    • #11
                      Stanze
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 3301

                      Originally posted by AreWeFree
                      I thought Primary Arms just ordered enough for a custom run and you can only buy that model from their website. Not knocking it, but it's a big difference, like how Brownells had a custom run of "zombie reticule" eotechs.
                      Thanks. I had incorrectly presumed that it was licensed since that's usually how patents work. Good move by Primary Arms to use their technology in the ACOG.
                      Constitutionally, officials cannot license or register a fundamental right.

                      "It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority." - Benjamin Franklin


                      "Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack." -Stanze

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                      • #12
                        Horrendo Revolver
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2015
                        • 1013

                        Originally posted by bk23103
                        While I'd love to have a true Trijicon ACOG scope for my M&P 15, I don't want to shell out $1200+ to get one. This "BD Tactical" deal on Amazon costs a tenth of the price and has decent reviews. Anyone have any experience here with this scope, or can you suggest something comparable?

                        http://www.amazon.com/BD-Tactical-Or...r+optic+scopes
                        Check aisle 3 next to the unicorns. I sell ACOG's but can't afford one. I've shot numerous AR's mounted with them mounted and of course handle them all of the time. There is a reason they cost what they do and there is no way you will get anything remotely as good for a tenth less.

                        I helped two friends sight in rifles yesterday. They guy on our left was shooting what looked like a custom AR in .308 and later I confirmed that it was. Very nice piece of equipment. There was a seriously badass looking scope sitting on top of it.

                        As we were leaving he asked me to spot a few shots for him because he wasn't hitting paper. This was at 100 yards. He fired three rounds and I couldn't see any hits with my spotting scope. He then asked me to shoot and he would spot. The rifle had a great trigger. The scope was a 5-25x50 and an absolute POS. The most critical eye relief I've ever seen and hazy glass. Don't know what brand of scope it was because there were no markings on it. I asked him where he was hitting paper at 25 yards. He responded that he had boresighted it and gone straight to 100 yards. Asked to see his boresighter and where he had purchased it - Amazon for $10.00. Offered to mechanically zero his scope and boresight it for him and recommended he start over at 25 yards. He declined and went back to shooting.

                        A couple of weeks ago a man came in to the store and asked for a scope that was great in low light and good out to 500 yards - for $100.00 or less.

                        Look on aisle 3 between the unicorns and zombie repellant.

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                        • #13
                          Mute
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 8550

                          If you don't have the budget for an ACOG, I suggest you shell out just a tad more and get a Vortex Spitfire 3x
                          instead, if you can live with just a touch less magnification. These can be found for under $300 on Amazon.
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                          • #14
                            SloChicken
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 4533

                            Originally posted by BradeRunner
                            Why don't more people just use tried and true optics.

                            $1200 buys one a lot of Leupold, Zeiss, or even Nikon scope.

                            99.99% of these tactical scopes will never see a tactical situation.

                            You would have a very tough time making an argument that the Trijicon glass is superior to Nikon, Leupold, or Zeiss glass.
                            I haven't seen any Nikon that compares to my Trijicon glass, whether it be my TA 11, or my accupoints.
                            I have a few different levels of Leupold, from vx2 to mk4 and the trijicon's are every bit as good of glass.
                            Zeiss makes pretty good stuff, but it isn't a Swarovski that is for sure.

                            PS, trijicon is tried and true.
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                            To me, it was a fist-fight, except that I did not counter-attack.

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                            • #15
                              SloChicken
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 4533

                              Originally posted by Mute
                              If you don't have the budget for an ACOG, I suggest you shell out just a tad more and get a Vortex Spitfire 3x
                              instead, if you can live with just a touch less magnification. These can be found for under $300 on Amazon.
                              my neighbor has one of these and it is actually pretty nice.
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                              Originally Posted by Cali-Shooter
                              To me, it was a fist-fight, except that I did not counter-attack.

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