Elcan SpecterDR 1-4 question

[FCOD]

Hello everyone. Having played with nearly every combat optic in my years of experience with AR rifles, I have finally decided to purchase an Elcan SpecterDR to try it out and get some experience with it. I have avoided the other site because of how many motards there are on those boards, so wanted to get some feedback here.

I have no doubts that the SpecterDR is anything, but phenomenal, but I came across this video demonstrating a potential design flaw. I find it hard to believe that a company like Elcan/Ratheon would release a product of this caliber and price range with such a flaw, so I'm curious. Although I can see his concerns, are these real world issues that people can and have faced with the Elcan SpecterDR, or is he making an issue about something that shouldn't have an issue made?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TWYMT4Jerw

Anyone on here running a SpecterDR? I've been running a few different types of ACOGs for the past few years and thought I might finally try the next step up. This will be going on my SOPMOD block 2 build.

[SuperSet]

3 different generations of that optic released so if you order from a reputable dealer, you'll get the latest one. You'll probably also want to order and perform the ARMS lever upgrade since the older levers tend to slide around on the upper after some time.

[FCOD]

Yeah. The one Im looking at is from an authorized dealer. The ARMS level upgrade? Are those the new levers with the adjustable ends for adjusting the tension?

[SuperSet]

Yes, those are the ARMS levers.

[J-cat]

I have it. The lever has ball detents. The spring has plenty of tension. You can come up with all sorts of extreme scenarios that will cause anything to fail. But this optic is awesome.

[J-cat]

In addition the poi shift from 4-1x is not due to the position of the lever. It is due to parallax at 1x. You can minimize this shift by mounting the optic in such a way and adjusting your stock to your frame in such a way there is no poi shift.

[asphaltcowboychip]

The video definitely is eye opening to some of the issues it may have. I've only used aim point, acog, leupold, and nightforce definitely eye opening.

[razorscs]

Interesting. I have always heard amazing things about the Elcan, but after seeing that video it definitely does not seem as robust as, say, an ACOG. While using the ACOG in the Marine Corps I beat the snot out of that thing, and it held zero just fine. I am surprised to see all the adjustments exposed on the Elcan.

[matt_b]

Yyyyy

Owners are claiming this video has a fake/clone.

any owners could chime in and let us knows?

[J-cat]

The video is only interesting to people who don't know how the Elcan works because they don't own one.

[FCOD]

Okay... well I was going to let this thread die after three posts; however, since it got some more, I thought I'd weigh in.

I purchased an Elcan and am absolutely in love with it. Expensive? Absolutely! Worth it to me? Heck yeah! Glass is something I've never cut corners on and I have to say that the quality, ruggedness and craftsmanship in this scope are second to none. I am extra stoked because the newest generations actually come with the ARD/Killflash. I have already zerod it and put about 300 rounds through it in the few days that I've had it.

I don't foresee any issues with this and once it cools down, I plan on putting it through it's paces out in the desert under some more un-controlled conditions.

I love my ACOGs, but seriously wish I could put an Elcan on more of my ARs.

[dvajda]

I'm an owner of a 1.5-6x. That video is absolutely fake, we all know that even if there as issues with Elcans (and they supposedly had mount-based POI issues), they are nowhere near as hilariously gross as the ones shown. he can literally move the scope around on the rifle, and the lens is moving. Hilarious, and also fake. This kid is running a knockoff, or is just trying to troll. I think it is mostly trolling.

I have no "love" for my Elcan. I think it is massive. I think it is overpriced. But it is solid and makes hits. I run it on a KAC SR25 and have used it at 850 yards multiple times with no problems. It is very very good even out to that distance, which blew my mind because normally I run 20x or 25x scopes. Never did I think I could ring steel with 6x, and with BDC at that range. And yet, works totally fine, and I can hit targets WAY faster than guys who are dialing elevation in their scopes. The Elcan actually made me go out and buy a BDC scope for another rifle, because the BDC worked so well (I did not buy another Elcan because of size/weight and it was for a smaller rifle).

So anyway, as an owner of an Elcan, I can tell you this video is obviously fake. He presented a number of massive problems, not just one. I mean, if you had a video that present some small issue, like the mount not holding zero, ok, maybe. But to say "oh, the ARMS shifts" and "the lever makes it shift" and "oh I can move the whole scope up by hand". Come on now, that is pretty obvious that you got a fake.

I would have liked to have seen his receipt. He didn't show any evidence it was a genuine scope. Because it wasn't. These scopes aren't perfect but they also don't have 3 massive problems that no one else but this genius have noticed.

[kozumasbullitt]

I have used many many optics in civilian life and service life. I can attest that the Elcan is equally robust as an ACOG. There were some issues with the mounting system of the Elcan but all issues have been resolved with the current generation. I would choose an Elcan any day of the week over a Trijicon but I would take a 1-4x scope over both of them for civilian use. The biggest benefit of the Elcan is to switch magnification instantly and have a very visible red dot. If the Elcan had the issues that chair warriors claim, they would not use Elcans in special operations.

[kozumasbullitt]

Okay... well I was going to let this thread die after three posts; however, since it got some more, I thought I'd weigh in.

I purchased an Elcan and am absolutely in love with it. Expensive? Absolutely! Worth it to me? Heck yeah! Glass is something I've never cut corners on and I have to say that the quality, ruggedness and craftsmanship in this scope are second to none. I am extra stoked because the newest generations actually come with the ARD/Killflash. I have already zerod it and put about 300 rounds through it in the few days that I've had it.

I don't foresee any issues with this and once it cools down, I plan on putting it through it's paces out in the desert under some more un-controlled conditions.

I love my ACOGs, but seriously wish I could put an Elcan on more of my ARs.

Glad you didn't let someone's second hand experience sway you. The truth is many people bash the Elcan because it is priced outside of their comfort zone. We see this all the time with expensive products in all markets and it is a consumer coping method to help justify why spending the additional money is not necessary in their case or it helps strengthen their purchase choice.

The only downside of the Elcan is there is no diopter adjustment and someone with uncorrected vision may have issues using it.

[FCOD]

I can say I don't regret the cost at all. It's probably my favorite optic and I own/have owned a lot.