XS Big Dots M&P Shield

[Kestryll]

All gunfights are a competition, Kestryll.

If you already know that it's gonna be "up close and dirty" and that if you "have time to go for a precision shot at his head" you'll "have time to seek cover and get away", I'd instead use your magical powers of clairvoyance to stay home that day, or be sure you had a rifle.

Chances are overwhelming you'll never get into a gunfight. But if you're in a school or mall, and some ******* is shooting the place up, or you're somewhere where you can't retreat, why limit your hits with inaccurate sights?

A) Competition gives points for scoring rings, self defense only gives points for going home alive.
They are NOT the same thing.

B) Self defense shooting is based around NOT knowing something is going to happen but being prepared for it.
Most bad guys don't schedule nefarious action ahead of time nor do they announce their intentions from neat distances like 25 yard. They get in your face and rely on surprise.
Being prepared means having good situational awareness and the tools to deal with the bad guy that is five feet from you or less when SA is defeated.
The days of dueling at known distances are over.

C) Really? 'Magical powers of clairvoyance'? You post a snarky comment like that after whining about people not respecting other's opinions?
Very telling.

[wazafuzz]

LOL! Everyone is "clinging" to their idea of what is the perfect sights. Here's one for you- All of my EDC guns have Ghost ring sights. I shoot these better than any other sight system. I shoot department qualification and usually outscore everyone on the range. My point is what works for some might not work for others.

[RobG]

Explain to me why this is better for old eyes:

They just are. Simple enough.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Looks like a fiber optic front sight on that shotgun, and not an XS.



It's unfortunate you can't have a discussion and not insult people.

I retract my ad homenism, sorry.

Big Dots work better on snub nose revolvers, because there isn't anything out there that's any better. The stock snub revovler sights blow.

On this we can agree

Your posts have the theme of a wise pistolero who needs to explain how sights work to a bunch of rubes. For all the organizations you quote, have you personally inspected all of their weapons to confirm your theory?

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Well we know what FBI's HRT uses, because it's the Springfield Professional.

Todd Green, a well known trainer, who has been a contract instructor for West Point, FAMS, DEA academy, DSS, etc said they don't. Link here.

My department does not officially use them either. But that would not stop me from putting them on any of my carry guns. People that carry firearms for a living (not range competitors) are known to tweak and customize to their particular tastes.

[BarrettM99]

No offense but I just hope that in the event of a shooting near me, you are nowhere near the place. You sound like a walking liability HB.

25 yard head shots!? ... With screaming people running for cover and concealment in the line of fire!? Whoa there cowboy. Slow your roll. You're gonna get innocent people killed. For your sake and everyone else's, I hope you never have to be in any situation like that.

[Kestryll]

So I'm curious, what makes you think I, or someone else, couldn't make a 25 yard head shot with a big dot sight?

I don't believe we've ever met nor been on the range together.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Actually I'd posit that "range competitors" are known to tweak and customize to their particular tastes more than many people that carry firearms for a living, as they're often constrained by department policy.

But "range competitors" test their gear objectively, using timers and scoreable targets. How do you objectively test your choice of carry gear?

"Range competitors" tend to be much better shooters than people that carry firearms for a living, because they shoot more, and thus would seem to have a better understanding on how gear works. And heck, a lot of guys do both.

But since it doesn't seem like anybody for the highest echelons of competitors or those that carry for a living use Big Dots, our discussion has become cyclical.

I don't think you realize how obnoxious your posts are. But yes, it has become cyclical, and tiresome.

[BarrettM99]

If this guy can do it, so can you HB. But I'm sure you'll challenge him to a shooting match too. Lol

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AY5RURFEGd8

I think you need to chill out and take a deep breath. Learn something sir.

(In case you can't see the video...its James Yeager shooting upside down, one handed, and at 25 yards with...hold your breath...XS Big Dots...oh noes...)

[Kestryll]

Your statement...

Desire for speed in a life or death situation does not equate to inability.

You do know that the vast majority of true self defense shootings happen at very close ranges, think 5-10 feet, and rarely involve using the sights right?

Unless you're in a Hollywood action flick the odds of having to take a long shot with a handgun to peel a bad guy off of a hostage are just slightly better than of me being chosen to be the President of the Brady org.

[BarrettM99]

Hey BarrettM99, you've probably never shot at one of those before, because pepper popper targets are pretty big at 3 1/2 feet tall. That's a lot of forgiveness for elevation. I also like how he flagged himself on the draw.

The guys you would take a shot at in mass shooting incidents you referred to in previous posts aren't going to be midgets. Most shooters in these incidents tend to be taller than 3.5'. Therefore, your comment that the pepper popper is too tall is irrelevant.

I'm disappointed HB, your posts are generally decent but I have to respectfully disagree with you on this thread. You're being stubborn at this point and I feel that no amount of intelligent dialogue is going to get through to you. I think my posts in this thread have run their course. I hope you take a look at others' comments again and understand that we're trying to help you.

Anyway, I'll see you around other threads here.

Btw, I've shot plenty of steel including pepper poppers and have been taught by some of the best instructors in the world. Don't let my limited post count give you the false impression of inexperience.

[SocomM4]

My sights popped out no problem. Changed to TFO.

Used MGW pusher.

[Old4eyes]

I quickly viewed through this thread and have noticed a little thing:

YOU ARE NOT HELPING THE OP ON HIS PROBLEM!

Past post #6 it's all a urinating contest about which sights are the best. The OP has made his choice and is asking if anyone has information on how to change them. Unless the sights he has chosen have a known specific problem in getting them installed all of the other posting and finger pointing has proven useless.

I suggest the OP start a new thread simply stating he's putting on new sights to his Shield and he can't get the old ones off and let USEFUL suggestions come through. C'mon guys help the fellow out.

[liberty47]

Xs big dots on my BG 380. The stock sights were horrible and I am very pleased with the Xs. Would buy again!

[shenecke]

Back to Shield sight removal. I used a soldering iron to heat the set screw up and removed it. I used a brass punch and a hammer with my slide in a bench vise padded with a towel for removal. Wasn't easy but got it done.