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  • anonymous308
    • Feb 2015
    • 572

    Cannot Seem to Get Eye Relief Right

    I have a Vortex Razor HD mounted on an XLR Chassis with a Nightforce base and American Rifle Company Rings. For the life of me I cannot seem to get the eye relief right. I am to the point I am wondering if it is an issue with the scope itself. No matter where I position my head I cannot seem to get a good view through the scope. The chassis is adjustable and I have adjusted it ten ways from Sunday. It really makes shooting difficult and my eyes don't feel so great after only about 20 rounds.

    Any ideas? The only thing I have not tried is moving the scope which I do not want to do since I had it professionally mounted and I do not have the tools to do it myself. I figure it shouldn't matter much being that I can asjust the buttstock and cheek rest unless I am missing something?
  • #2
    CessnaDriver
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 10640

    Well for me, I close my eyes, then shoulder the rifle as naturally as possible and let my eye fall where it wants to go. Then I put the scope to that point.


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    • #3
      Pthfndr
      In Memoriam
      • Oct 2005
      • 3691

      Originally posted by anonymous308
      Any ideas? The only thing I have not tried is moving the scope which I do not want to do since I had it professionally mounted and I do not have the tools to do it myself. I figure it shouldn't matter much being that I can asjust the buttstock and cheek rest unless I am missing something?
      First you adjust the rifles butt stock to your length of pull, then you mount the scope and adjust the position of the scope and the cheek rest to give you the proper eye relief.
      Rob Thomas - Match Director NCPPRC Tactical Long Range Match

      Match Director Sac Valley Vintage Military Rifle Long Range Match

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      • #4
        HK Dave
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2008
        • 5737

        Did you make certain the diopter is set correctly?

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        • #5
          Merc1138
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2009
          • 19742

          Originally posted by anonymous308
          I have a Vortex Razor HD mounted on an XLR Chassis with a Nightforce base and American Rifle Company Rings. For the life of me I cannot seem to get the eye relief right. I am to the point I am wondering if it is an issue with the scope itself. No matter where I position my head I cannot seem to get a good view through the scope. The chassis is adjustable and I have adjusted it ten ways from Sunday. It really makes shooting difficult and my eyes don't feel so great after only about 20 rounds.

          Any ideas? The only thing I have not tried is moving the scope which I do not want to do since I had it professionally mounted and I do not have the tools to do it myself. I figure it shouldn't matter much being that I can asjust the buttstock and cheek rest unless I am missing something?
          If you had the scope mounted by someone who didn't bother to mount it with you present and checking that you had proper eye relief, then it wasn't mounted professionally.

          Get yourself a torque driver and adjust the scope position like Pthfndr said.

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          • #6
            Sig Marine
            Member
            • May 2011
            • 347

            Originally posted by anonymous308
            The only thing I have not tried is moving the scope which I do not want to do since I had it professionally mounted and I do not have the tools to do it myself. I figure it shouldn't matter much being that I can asjust the buttstock and cheek rest unless I am missing something?
            Whoever mounted your scope should have had you there when they did the job. As mentioned above, you adjust the Length Of Pull to fit the rifle to you and then adjust the scope and cheek weld to you so it will be necessary to move the scope. Go back to the shop/individual who mounted the scope and ask them to show you how to make the proper adjustments.

            On another note, you should obtain the tools necessary to set torques on your rifle and move your scope. Keeping your rifle properly maintained by periodically checking the torque of your action screws and rings to the base and scope are part of the shooting game. ARC rings only require 1 size of hex key and 1 torque setting. Both the base and cap screws are torqued to 50 inch pounds.

            If you're anywhere near the San Diego area, PM me. I'd be glad to show you how to do the job.

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            • #7
              JMP
              Internet Warrior
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Feb 2012
              • 17056

              Originally posted by anonymous308
              The only thing I have not tried is moving the scope which I do not want to do since I had it professionally mounted and I do not have the tools to do it myself. I figure it shouldn't matter much being that I can asjust the buttstock and cheek rest unless I am missing something?
              Move it forward or backwards so that you get the full sight picture when you naturally shoulder the rifle. Then, obviously you will need to adjust the parallax and diopter to get the right focus.

              Contrary to popular belief, you do not need a "professional" to mount a scope, and you can do it with pretty inexpensive tools. The number one thing is to exercise common sense.

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              • #8
                TacticalSpork
                Member
                • Mar 2014
                • 408

                If you live near Long Beach/Pomona/North Orange County, you can PM me if you need a torque wrench to borrow


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                • #9
                  thegrayham
                  Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 364

                  I have often wondered how shops mount scopes to rifles without the customer present... I find it such a personal thing, I could not imagine having someone else do it. I do however realize that the long held standard for hunters for years was to have the rifle dropped off and the scope "professionally" mounted.

                  Edit:
                  To the OP, I would invest in the tools and learn to make these sort of adjustments yourself. Compared to the price of your rifle, glass, accessories and ammo, a small torque wrench and some bits will be cheap. You will find they come in handy for all sorts of things. Check out 8541 Tactical on youtube, he has some good videos and instructions. If you local (I am in Escondido - San Diego) hit me up and I will help you out and lend you the tools.
                  Last edited by thegrayham; 05-18-2015, 8:05 PM.
                  THEGRAYHAM

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                  • #10
                    OpticsPlanet
                    Vendor/Retailer
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 2129

                    If it's too close when you have the rifle shouldered with a comfortable length of pull and cheek weld, you might want to consider a cantilever mount, to allow for the scope to move forward.

                    I agree that an investment in a torque screwdriver is a good idea - I was surprised to find that screws i thought were tight were far from published specs.

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