Trijicon RMR red dot optic

[Interstateguns]

I know that the OP already purchased his RDS but I just wanted to share my experience:


The RDS on a pistol really intrigues me for a lot of applications so I decided to take the voyage and find what worked for me.

The host was a Glock 17 that I use for just about everything: general range trips, defensive purpose in the home, ccw, hunting hogs at night under nods.

I started off with the Trijicon RM01. After shooting if for a couple months, I found that because the intensity was not adjustable, it didn;t suit my needs for an all occasion optic.

Then i went to a Leupold deltapoint. Ran it for a while and found that I was a tad quicker with it for some reason and it was easier for me to get behind the gun when shooting from really weird positions. Still didn't find that the dot was the correct brightness for certain situations.

I then went to an RM06. Because of the adjustable LED I really liked it.

For some reason I wanted to try out a sealed system (just because I'm ocd and if I have accessibility to optics then why not right?) so I shot an Aimpoint T1 for a while. I really like the logic behind the system but it was too big for ccw so I went back to the RM06 3.25. I find that anything over 3.25 is difficult to use especially when only a portion of a target presents itself.

So here she is as of today and 5kish rounds later. My Glock 17 Gen 3 with Unity Tactical ATOM slide:

[hermosabeach]

I run an 8 MOA dot and I am debating a larger size...

8MOA - lets call it 8 inches @ 100 yards is smaller up close

so 4" at 50 yards
2" at 25 yards
1" at 12 1/2 yards
or 1/2" at 6.25 yards (18.75 feet)
or 1/4" at bad breath distance


up close, you pointish shoot by seeing the housing

When selecting the dot, I am naturally going to the iron suppressor sights first...

I am tempted to go with a larger dot as I do not shoot much past 25 yards with a pistol on a regular basis

[hermosabeach]

pic of the 8 MOA dot

the suppressor sights are very narrow- I would go with Trijicon supressor sights on the next round

[tonyxcom]

I had the 6.5moa dot and it made accuracy at 25y or more a lot harder since it can obscure the target.

I switched to the 3.5moa and like it a lot better. The smaller dot isn't harder to find. Its in the same place!

[waveslayer]

I had the 6.5moa dot and it made accuracy at 25y or more a lot harder since it can obscure the target.

I switched to the 3.5moa and like it a lot better. The smaller dot isn't harder to find. Its in the same place!

+1 try 100 yards. ..

[tonyxcom]

I've shot it to 300y. Granted, 300y hits with a G19 and bulk ammo present some repeat-ability issues.

[hermosabeach]

at 100 yards you pie plate the shot

you use the top edge or the bottom edge as your aiming point.... same as with an ACOG at 500

What size target were you shooting at 25 yards where the 3.5MOA dot obscured the target?

The dot is only 7/8" at 25 yards...

[tonyxcom]

I didn't say the 3.5 obscured a target at 25y.

I said the 6.5moa dot obscured the target at 25y or more. I generally shoot at 2", 3" and 6" pasters.

[hermosabeach]

Gotcha
So the 6.5 is too big
1 5/8" dot would cover most of a 2" pasted at 25

[patriot_man]

I want to try a T-1.

Seems like the tube type optic would be better for getting centered behind the dot rather than relying on the sights. Plus the emitter is shielded.

[Interstateguns]

I want to try a T-1.

Seems like the tube type optic would be better for getting centered behind the dot rather than relying on the sights. Plus the emitter is shielded.

In a perfect world I would have stuck with the T1. I too like the closed system. I only went back to a RMR because of conceal ability.

[tonyxcom]

I have a PA-ADS on a 6Sec mount and I find the T1 type optics much more sensitive to eye position. I also find the "T1'" have a lot more parallax than the RMR when shooting at 25y or LESS. (Although my real T1 has less parallax than the PA-ADS, but still more than the RMR)

The implications of this, I've found, were that at 10y, it was the difference between shooting one ragged hole vs holes all over a 3" paster. No biggie at the slow fire range, just make sure you aim with the dot in the same place.

I can see the desire to mount a T1 on a pistol though, for the absolute best reliability one could expect from a red dot optic on a pistol or otherwise. Training is key regardless, and I am sure I could overcome these issues if I needed to use my 6Sec/PA-ADS/G17 at speed.

I think everyone should try a red dot equipped pistol and I mean really try one, just not a magazine or two. You need to spend a few days with one. Dry firing and live firing. Most people suck with them at first because the dot shows them how crappy their trigger pull is. Blurry targets and rear irons filter this out to the shooter staring at a crisp front sight. A crisp target with a crisp dot on it does not, so I've seen a few people dismiss the concept.

[benjamac]

pic of the 8 MOA dot

the suppressor sights are very narrow- I would go with Trijicon supressor sights on the next round

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