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  • #16
    cranemech
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Oct 2010
    • 1727

    FalconLair:
    Thanks for the response and thank you for your service to the public. I can see how, depending on the area and your beat/duties, you would have limited contact with citizens carrying firearms.

    As another poster said, I applaud the fact that "you know what you don't know" (does that make sense?) and are open to learning the ins and outs of our convoluted gun laws.

    I have considered pursuing a position as a reserve officer or a volunteer for one of my local Departments, but am limited right now by funds/time to attend a POST academy requirement. Maybe after I get my wife through school I will pursue that position because as you said it is something to help my community.

    Have you made a decision on how you/your son are going to transport your weapons?

    Stay safe.
    "Stupid should hurt" - Armstrong and Getty show

    A lie about a wrongdoing becomes your future. The truth about a wrongdoing becomes your past. - Unknown

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    • #17
      FalconLair
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2012
      • 3868

      Originally posted by cranemech
      FalconLair:
      Thanks for the response and thank you for your service to the public. I can see how, depending on the area and your beat/duties, you would have limited contact with citizens carrying firearms.

      As another poster said, I applaud the fact that "you know what you don't know" (does that make sense?) and are open to learning the ins and outs of our convoluted gun laws.

      I have considered pursuing a position as a reserve officer or a volunteer for one of my local Departments, but am limited right now by funds/time to attend a POST academy requirement. Maybe after I get my wife through school I will pursue that position because as you said it is something to help my community.

      Have you made a decision on how you/your son are going to transport your weapons?

      Stay safe.
      thank you for the kind words crane and viet4lifeOC, i freely admit i don't know every law on the books but when im in doubt i'll get the help I need and do plenty of research, to help ensure I make the best possible decision for the moment. I dare any LEO to publicly say they know every law on the books lol. Its not gonna happen, but that doesn't mean you can't do your job. We're still researching some carrying cases, but he did come across this one that he thinks will work fine for him http://casesgalore.com/doubletripleh...istolcase.aspx Its not too expensive and he can take it right into the range. We were looking for a single combination lock but most cases sized for multiple firearms are designed with two. Some feedback from some of you members would be greatly appreciated.

      Best wishes in your pursuit in LE, i'm sure its quite different from when I first went into the academy over 23 years ago, but I hope you come out of it with a very rewarding experience, to say the least. Something I thought I would do for just a few years has turned out to be one of my most enjoyable passions, besides my wife lol, and I only hope I've been able to make at least a small bit of a difference in the community. Becoming a Level 1-D reserve for the department still ranks as one of my proudest accomplishments.
      Last edited by FalconLair; 05-01-2012, 12:15 AM.
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      • #18
        bsg
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2009
        • 25954

        welcome to the forum FalconLair.

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        • #19
          ckprax
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 1496

          Originally posted by FalconLair
          Crane, this is the law we get to interpret, no more, no less:

          California Penal Code section 12025 does not prevent a citizen of the United States over 18 years of age who is not lawfully prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, from transporting by motor vehicle any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person provided the firearm is unloaded and stored in a locked container.

          The term "locked container" means a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment. For more information, refer to California Penal Code Section 12026.1.

          I know you were not trolling, you asked a legitimate question, hopefully I gave you a honest and accurate perspective from my point of view. Technically, and by definition of the law, even the 4-gun case that I use with the tacky, cheap latch locks would be in accordance with CPC12026.1

          And, although I have never posted in some of the threads concerning guns being transported in a locked container, I see several people commenting about fastening their gun containers under their seat or other sections of the vehicle...YET, according to CPC12026.1 once you have bolted down a case for your gun, you just violated Penal Code 12026.1 The reason being that a Utility Compartment is considered anything that is fixed to ones vehicle. That is what the law says, yet, I see people recommending in these forums for people to secure their gun containers in such fashion.

          At any rate, even in the forums here you get people telling other people to do it. Law interpretation is best left for the courts, not necessarily for LE.
          I just want to point out why many people here are not against fastening a locked container in their vehicle. The devil is in the details. The law does not say any utility compartment or a utility compartment. It states the utility compartment; which would be the center console in most vehicles.

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          • #20
            thegunsmith
            Junior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 38

            Perhaps a bit harsh on the guy, he asked for case law examples, not penal codes. He wanted to make sure his son never had issues based on court decisions, not the handbook of stated regulation. Case law citations are much more indicative of the court's potential leanings if a case were to be tried. Good on you OP for being a good dad.

            AS a side note: pelican cases are incredible; heavy and a bit bulky, but incredible. Buy a decent lock and keep them out of sight if you aren't in the car with them; thieves know that when you are carrying something in a $150+ case, that it's probably valuable.
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