Dating a Romanian

[Bobby Ricigliano]

If you have even a passing interest in Mausers, a VZ-24 is mandatory. Buttery slick action and a great shooter. The winged front sight protector is preferable to me over the German style rounded hood and is much easier to install / remove.



Romanian M44

[TRAP55]

The Czechoslovak Armaments Factory started making specially designated vz. 24s in 1938 after the German invasion. Romania was for a time part of the Axis during World War II. "Romanian" vz. 24s have a letter followed by an "R" in the serial number; for example SR 1XXX. Romanian vz. 24s "AR", "BR", "CR"... all the way through "YR" represent different periods of manufacturing, no rifle with "ZR" has been found. The Czechs made 25,000 rifles for each period roughly totaling 625,000 Romanian vz. 24s.

Probably at the end of 1939.

[nick]

Probably at the end of 1939.

I thought, they only made them in 1938-1939 (and possibly a few in 1940), and G is way below the middle. Or did they not make many in 1938?

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Here you guys are having an intelligent and scholarly discussion of C&R history, and I am blowing it up with mindless gun pron. Sorry..

[G-Man WC]

Here you guys are having an intelligent and scholarly discussion of C&R history, and I am blowing it up with mindless gun pron. Sorry..

You say it like it's a bad thing Bobby!
Say, do you still have that persian mauser for sale?

-g

[Bobby Ricigliano]

You say it like it's a bad thing Bobby!
Say, do you still have that persian mauser for sale?

-g

I came to my senses and withdrew it Sir. I was going to let it go because I have two but I just couldn't do it. I do believe the 98/29 is about as good as it gets with Mausers.

[Frisco3Gun]

I came in here to tell you to check her parts kit!!

[nick]

Here you guys are having an intelligent and scholarly discussion of C&R history, and I am blowing it up with mindless gun pron. Sorry..

You know, I was actually thinking of telling you just that! All I wanted was to date this Vz. 24...

[TRAP55]

I thought, they only made them in 1938-1939 (and possibly a few in 1940), and G is way below the middle. Or did they not make many in 1938?

Started in 1938 after the Germans invaded, and to the best of my knowledge, ended in 1944 when Romania joined the Allies. It more likely could have been 1942, BRNO switched over almost all production to 98K's then.
If anyone runs across a reliable source with the the correct date that manufacture ended, please post it here so I can update my notes.
Strange, that Romy 24's are like Hungarian M-44 Mosins, either in near perfect shape like yours, or they they look like a T-34 ran em over a few times. I've never seen anything in between those two conditions.

[G-Man WC]

I came to my senses and withdrew it Sir. I was going to let it go because I have two but I just couldn't do it. I do believe the 98/29 is about as good as it gets with Mausers.

Totally understandable

You know, I was actually thinking of telling you just that! All I wanted was to date this Vz. 24...

Sorry, its a Contributor (CL) C&R thing.

-g

[Eddie1965]

If I am not mistaken, Romanian M91/30 is a rare bird.

Unfortunately this is just a Russian M91 that was supplied to Romania by the Russian Empire during WWI.

[nick]

Started in 1938 after the Germans invaded, and to the best of my knowledge, ended in 1944 when Romania joined the Allies. It more likely could have been 1942, BRNO switched over almost all production to 98K's then.
If anyone runs across a reliable source with the the correct date that manufacture ended, please post it here so I can update my notes.
Strange, that Romy 24's are like Hungarian M-44 Mosins, either in near perfect shape like yours, or they they look like a T-34 ran em over a few times. I've never seen anything in between those two conditions.

It did start in 1938, but Germans invaded Czechoslovakia in 1939 (they only annexed Sudetenland in 1938).

I'm looking for a reliable source of info on the Romanian contract, but no luck so far. When I was looking into it back in the day, I got that the contract was from 1938 through 1939, or possibly through 1940, and that they started marking the rifles' Zbrojovka Brno' instead of 'Ceskoslovenska Zbrojovka Brno'. Mine's marked 'Ceskoslovenska Zbrojovka Brno'.

[Eddie1965]

Hi Nick, I posted the same question regarding the production dates for the Romanian contract on Gunboards and this is what I got:

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?292566-VZ-24-dates

[nick]

Hi Nick, I posted the same question regarding the production dates for the Romanian contract on Gunboards and this is what I got:

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthre...66-VZ-24-dates

Thank you. Got so much conflicting information, I don't know what to believe now. I guess, that's what happens when you try to date a Romanian

[kendog4570]

Dating a Romanian

Watch out for the brothers and the uncles.