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  • Enfield47
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2012
    • 6385

    Enfield No.5 Question

    I saw an Enfield No. 5 rifle at a lgs this weekend that they had just gotten in from an estate sale. It's in good shape, all numbers matching (not sure about the magazine), and it will come with two mags. They just called and said they would sell it to me for $450 + tax and DROS. Should I get it?
  • #2
    ccandgc
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 2142

    Me personally? Yes. Run back there and get it. That's a good deal with the extra mags, a plus if one matches. Hopefully they are milsurps mags. Is there an import mark? A + if there isn't. Go.
    -Chad

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    • #3
      81turbota
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      • Oct 2014
      • 2956

      YES! I paid $450 for my bolt matching 1945 ROF in okay condition with no magazine. The mag was $50 from Numrich. Matching bolt numbers is critical.

      What year and manufacturer? If it's an early 1944 that's a very nice score. BSA is a nice bonus too, BSA (M47C on butt socket) made approx 80,000 and ROF Fazakerly (ROF (F) on left side of receiver) made approx 170,000.

      A word of caution- many fakes were made by Gibbs Rifle company and others from No4's. Make sure it has the 800 meter sight, pinch lightening cuts by the forward trigger guard screw, hollow bolt handle and the scalloped receiver. They were only made from 1944 to 1947.
      Last edited by 81turbota; 12-09-2014, 3:13 PM.
      C&R nut.

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      • #4
        Crusader
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 2995

        Make sure it is an actual No.5 and not just a cut down No.4 or something like that. There was a "No.5" floating around at a recent gun show here in town that I came super close to purchasing for $400 until I looked up good pictures and found it was a repro that just looked really good.

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        • #5
          cwilliams
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 1244

          Originally posted by Crusader
          Make sure it is an actual No.5 and not just a cut down No.4 or something like that. There was a "No.5" floating around at a recent gun show here in town that I came super close to purchasing for $400 until I looked up good pictures and found it was a repro that just looked really good.
          This. Buy it if it is real.

          Fun guns to shoot!

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          • #6
            smle-man
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2007
            • 10584

            If it is legit and with a nice bore, yep, go for it.

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            • #7
              ccandgc
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2008
              • 2142

              Yes....prolly the biggest, most important factor as stated is that it's a real No. 5 not a copy. Derp, I totally forgot this.....I guess I should be typing things while coming down off of anesthesia.
              -Chad

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              • #8
                Tonymin
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 768

                Sounds like a good price if it's nice.
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                Looking for locally for sale Nagant revolver

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                • #9
                  Capybara
                  CGSSA Coordinator
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 15367

                  If it is genuine, buy it. I have a genuine No5 MKI, a 1947 F and it is a really fun little rifle. The recoil isn't nearly as brutal as everyone makes it out to be. It kicks but less than an M44 or Mauser.

                  NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor, Shotgun Instructor and Range Safety Officer

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                  • #10
                    Enfield47
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 6385

                    Thanks guys. I'll take a closer look at it but I'm pretty sure it is a genuine No.5. I wish I had paid closer attention to it but it wasn't for sale yet at the time I saw it. I think I recall seeing No.5 on the receiver, but I'm not sure about the manufacturer or year. I'll put in a call tomorrow and get some more info on it.

                    I was hoping for a little lower price but I guess that is a fair market value for them right now and I don't have a No.5 so this should be a good addition to the family.

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                    • #11
                      Full Clip
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 10263

                      Yep, join the club:

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                      • #12
                        Enfield47
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 6385

                        BTW I blame Knucklehead for my interest in the No.5. I had gone all these years happily passing them by, then he had to bring one to the last C&R shoot and made me shoot it. :P

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                        • #13
                          justin4fun
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 601

                          450 shipped is what I paid for mine. if they will let you pull it from the stock and look for machine cuts at the base of the barrel, these lightning cuts are what you want to see, you can find pics online. Check the bolt handle and rear sight as well.gap under rear sight and hollow bolt handle.

                          I bought mine from pics and when I got it home found the flash hider was a repro. Look for casting marks or lines running down the flash hider. Mine shoots fine and has all matching numbers but a fake FH.

                          The BSA made ones tend to be a bit less common and can carry a small premium. I believe they will be marked M47C, but it can be found online also. It is to late to dig mine out. Also don't sweat the eletropencil marks as that is how they came. Good luck and they are a pleasure to shoot.

                          With the US firmly in the fight of WWII and Russia turning the tide on the Eastern Front, the British finally had a chance to properly reinforce their former holdings in the Far East.Part of this effort was the lightening and shortening of the Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk I rifle.The new carbine was intended for combat in the dense jungles of Burma, Malaya, and China and would only need to be accurate up to 400 yards.

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                          • #14
                            ccandgc
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 2142

                            Here are my 2, first is a local purchase and I think I got the second from AIM....never mind the others.



                            -Chad

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                            • #15
                              Rogerbutthead
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 3844

                              I may be showing my age, but in the 80's I remember people passing on No.5's because of wandering zero problems. No one has that problem now?

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