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  • penguin0123
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 3089

    Garand Gas Plug Tool (M3A1/M10)

    Got myself a Schuster adjustable gas plug, but it seems a socket wrench won't tighten it. It is of the "x" type, not the "-" type.

    Will the M3A1 and M10 tool both allow me to tighten the plug? I don't have a butt stock cleaning kit, so if the M10 works, I may just pick up a kit. Any preference for one over the other?

    Thanks.
  • #2
    0321jarhead
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 2116

    Bummer! You would never have an issue using this gas plug. It works really good and I and others have fired numerous types of loads. But, to each his own.

    The Ported Gas Plug™ has an open area in the base of the screw that increases the starting volume of the gas cylinder. This causes the peak gas pressures in the gas cylinder to drop by over 30%.


    BTW, it is a TORX wrench or driver you need.
    Last edited by 0321jarhead; 12-01-2014, 6:23 PM.
    "TRUST BUT, VERIFY"
    Ronald Reagan

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    • #3
      highpower790
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 3481

      Don't shoot ammo differing in bullet weights/ powder from what the military used and a special plug wont be necessary.
      Keep it simple!

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      • #4
        chinaserf1
        Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 235

        I like the GarandGear plug, but the fact that it DOESN'T fit with the standard USGI tools annoys me greatly. I mean, it's an M1. You want me to throw a 1/4'' socket into my buttstock? Why? It won't do anything else for me. Yadda bench shooters yadda, if possible I keep spare C&R tools with my guns.

        What annoys me even more is that Eric took a negative (less than 5 star) review off his site that stated that truth. There's a reason there are only 12 perfect reviews!
        Last edited by chinaserf1; 12-01-2014, 6:51 PM.
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        • #5
          EricClay
          Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 144

          The decision to go with a 1/4 socket extension was an engineering one based on the large number of M1 Garand owners that fail to tighten their gas plugs enough and come loose during firing. I've received a fair amount of feedback from people that supported the design.

          The 1/4 socket extension is also a tool that most people already own. I do understand and appreciate those that wish to keep all the parts true to the original design.

          As for your comment on the feedback I approve all the product feedback I get unless its completely illegible or in some way doesn't accurately reflect the product. I also need to be able to verify the person leaving feedback actually bought the item being reviewed. I need to be able to link the email on the feedback to a customer. All criticism is freely accepted. As long as the feedback is coherent and family friendly I'll approve it.

          If you're feedback was lost please resend it and I'll make sure it goes up.

          -Eric
          Last edited by EricClay; 12-02-2014, 1:14 AM.

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          • #6
            NOTABIKER
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2012
            • 7635

            Originally posted by 0321jarhead
            Bummer! You would never have an issue using this gas plug. It works really good and I and others have fired numerous types of loads. But, to each his own.

            The Ported Gas Plug™ has an open area in the base of the screw that increases the starting volume of the gas cylinder. This causes the peak gas pressures in the gas cylinder to drop by over 30%.


            BTW, it is a TORX wrench or driver you need.
            I wanted one of these, try calling them

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            • #7
              0321jarhead
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 2116

              Originally posted by NOTABIKER
              I wanted one of these, try calling them
              I never called Garand Gear. I have bought other goods from them over the internet.

              BTW, the "gas cylinder gage pin" works just as good as an original. I was able to compare with another M1 Garand collector.

              Gas Cylinder Gage Pins allow you to quickly determine if you Gas Cylinder is still within the designed specifications. Each kit contains a GO and a NOGO gage Pin.
              "TRUST BUT, VERIFY"
              Ronald Reagan

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              • #8
                EricClay
                Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 144

                Originally posted by NOTABIKER
                I wanted one of these, try calling them
                Garandgear is a one man operation and my second full time job. It's purely an internet based operation. There is no office with a receptionist manning the phone. Perhaps someday.

                I am able to handle email support in the field during the day.

                -Eric

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                • #9
                  Justintoxicated
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 3836

                  Originally posted by penguin0123
                  Got myself a Schuster adjustable gas plug, but it seems a socket wrench won't tighten it. It is of the "x" type, not the "-" type.

                  Will the M3A1 and M10 tool both allow me to tighten the plug? I don't have a butt stock cleaning kit, so if the M10 works, I may just pick up a kit. Any preference for one over the other?

                  Thanks.
                  I use the M3A1 tool on mine and it works, although an "x" style would probably be better. I like the gas plug although I shoot reloads that don't require it. I feel like reducing unnecessary pressure is a good thing even with my reloads.

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                  • #10
                    penguin0123
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 3089

                    Originally posted by 0321jarhead
                    BTW, it is a TORX wrench or driver you need.
                    The head is "x" in shape, I'm not sure how a star shape will fit in there? The nut that adjust the venting is a hex nut.




                    Originally posted by highpower790
                    Don't shoot ammo differing in bullet weights/ powder from what the military used and a special plug wont be necessary.
                    The fixed gas system is designed to work with mud and crud caking the thing, meaning it is overgassed for normal range use where it gets lovingly taken care of after every trip. I like to not beat up the OR any more than necessary. I can appreciate the sentiment thou.



                    Originally posted by Justintoxicated
                    I use the M3A1 tool on mine and it works, although an "x" style would probably be better. I like the gas plug although I shoot reloads that don't require it. I feel like reducing unnecessary pressure is a good thing even with my reloads.
                    Thanks for the feedback. Do you think the M3A1 is better than the M10? I think the M10 does bolt disassemble but the M3A1 doesn't, right?

                    I share your reason for getting an adjustable plug as well.

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                    • #11
                      NOTABIKER
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 7635

                      Originally posted by EricClay
                      Garandgear is a one man operation and my second full time job. It's purely an internet based operation. There is no office with a receptionist manning the phone. Perhaps someday.

                      I am able to handle email support in the field during the day.

                      -Eric
                      I like many people do not buy products without calling on the phone. I know my thinking is outdated but that is how some of us operate still. i wanted one of your Garand devices instead of the one that uses the drilled allen heads. i did buy the other product and was not happy with it.

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                      • #12
                        0321jarhead
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 2116

                        Originally posted by penguin0123
                        The head is "x" in shape, I'm not sure how a star shape will fit in there? The nut that adjust the venting is a hex nut.
                        Sounds like a simple little allen wrench and combo tool.
                        Last edited by 0321jarhead; 12-03-2014, 9:40 AM.
                        "TRUST BUT, VERIFY"
                        Ronald Reagan

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                        • #13
                          OpenSightsOnly
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 1557

                          Originally posted by penguin0123
                          The head is "x" in shape, I'm not sure how a star shape will fit in there? The nut that adjust the venting is a hex nut.






                          The fixed gas system is designed to work with mud and crud caking the thing, meaning it is overgassed for normal range use where it gets lovingly taken care of after every trip. I like to not beat up the OR any more than necessary. I can appreciate the sentiment thou.





                          Thanks for the feedback. Do you think the M3A1 is better than the M10? I think the M10 does bolt disassemble but the M3A1 doesn't, right?

                          I share your reason for getting an adjustable plug as well.

                          Go to the Schuster website, they sell the tool set, and this is a good deal if you don't have a gas cylinder wrench.

                          Just my $0.02, if you don't reload, it's best to use Garand-specific ammo. CMP or Creedmoor sports has them. American Eagle from Federal is another good one.

                          If you have the time and space, pick up reloading. I load for 7.5 Swiss and .30 cal. I can use the bullet, primer, and powder on both platforms.

                          The Schuster adjustable plug is designed for a match prepped M1. Folks who shoot a match prepped M1 also reload so its a way for them to fine tune a load.

                          As long as your gas cylinder and op rod meet spec and you use or reload Garand-specific ammo, the standard gas plug is good you got nothing to worry about about wear and tear.

                          Since I reload, I worry about brass since the Garand can really beat up the brass!

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                          • #14
                            SanPedroShooter
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 9732

                            So no one uses a butter knife but me huh?

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                            • #15
                              SanPedroShooter
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 9732

                              Good point about reloading for Swiss and the Garand by the way. My first two big calibers aside from 5.56

                              A lot of cross over between those two 30 cals.

                              The only thing different is the brass.

                              I haven't had much trouble with my Garand brass. Ive been using the HXP I got from the CMP. I annealed some of it, Id have to check my notebook to see exactly when.

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