Schutzen?

[toro1]

I may have an opportunity to check out a late 1940's Schutzen rifle that was made in Passau, Germany. Can anyone provide some links to where I might find information on Schutzen rifles from that era? I have been striking out with my Google searches and would like know something in case I get a chance to see it.

TIA

[81turbota]

Stutzen maybe? The only military rifle I know of by that name is the Steyr M95 Stutzen carbine.

I'm tuning in for more info as well.

[toro1]

I do not think it is military, and is supposed to have very ornate engraving on the receiver.

[81turbota]

Ah okay. I have no idea at this point, but a quick google search gave me this ornate rifle:



I'm curious to see what's in store for you. I have never seen or heard of such a rifle.

[OpenSightsOnly]

single shot target rifle, ornately designed, has palm rest and butt stock hook for ergonomic stability.

Google the keywords "3P ISSF, Air rifle" and you'll see that the rifles they use have elements of the schuetzen.

I think this is black powder driven . . .

[toro1]

single shot target rifle, ornately designed, has palm rest and butt stock hook for ergonomic stability.

Google the keywords "3P ISSF, Air rifle" and you'll see that the rifles they use have elements of the schuetzen.

I think this is black powder driven . . .

So it is a type of rifle, not a manufacturers name?

[TRAP55]

"Schuetzen Rifle" is a broad term covering muzzle loaders, to modern single shot rifles. Like the term Trap gun or Skeet gun when talking shotguns.
A Schuetzen Rifle made in 1940's Germany was most likely a falling block action. Usually a one off of any kind of regular production, being built and custom fitted to the shooter.
Inspect the the sights, both front and rear. They need to function and be complete. The sights were usually just as custom as the rifle was, and the majority of them were proprietary by the builder.
Confirm the chambering as well, it's more common to run into a custom that you'll have to reload for, than not. Many of the Winchester HiWalls with the barrels marked .32/40, are 8mm/40. The Europeans used variations of standard chamberings as well.
A little history:

http://www.shootingusa.com/SIGHTING_IN_SHOWS/29-16_SCHUETZEN/29-16_schuetzen.html

[toro1]

"Schuetzen Rifle" is a broad term covering muzzle loaders, to modern single shot rifles. Like the term Trap gun or Skeet gun when talking shotguns.
A Schuetzen Rifle made in 1940's Germany was most likely a falling block action. Usually a one off of any kind of regular production, being built and custom fitted to the shooter.
Inspect the the sights, both front and rear. They need to function and be complete. The sights were usually just as custom as the rifle was, and the majority of them were proprietary by the builder.
Confirm the chambering as well, it's more common to run into a custom that you'll have to reload for, than not. Many of the Winchester HiWalls with the barrels marked .32/40, are 8mm/40. The Europeans used variations of standard chamberings as well.
A little history:
http://www.shootingusa.com/SIGHTING_...schuetzen.html

Thanks!
This explains why I could not find a specific manufacturer in Passau. It had not occurred to me that it might be a style of shooting and a type of rifle.

[TRAP55]

Toro, get some pics posted if you can't find a name on it, I might be able to ID the action maker. Depending on who made it, chambering, and features, some of these bring big $$$.

[Latigo]

http://theswissriflesdotcommessageboard.yuku.com/search/text/?q=scheutzen&submit=Search+All#.VHxvMVItCos

[6mmintl]

Try the American Single Shot Association forum.

[Latigo]

Or try the simplest explanation. It's both a discipline and a rifle type.

[toro1]

Thanks for help everyone. It has been an education

Toro, get some pics posted if you can't find a name on it, I might be able to ID the action maker. Depending on who made it, chambering, and features, some of these bring big $$$.

When I see it I'll try and get some pics. He did say it had a Martini action and also had Wendhammer (sp?) stamped into it. He also said it is chambered for 8.15X46.

[glennsche]

more background info on the term

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sch%C3%BCtzen_%28military%29