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  • Guisan
    In Memoriam
    • Sep 2012
    • 368

    Older Swiss 1890 and GP11 bullets are going into production soon...

    The first pulled sample bullets are one their way to the USA to get patents on these, the original Swiss patents are no longer valid as over 100 years old and not meant for reloading...

    We are now working of producing the round nosed GP90/23 bullets for the 1889, M93 and the M97 cadet rifles soon and getting a US patent on that one.

    The second plan is to produce 2 types of GP11 bullets when real GP11 is no longer available
    A cheaper version for 100 yards shooting and a more complicated version that was made during the war also for 328 yards and furter on, that one is more expensive and requires extra reloading equipment that we need to send the finished bullet for to RCBS and Lee for to first design additonal reloading equipment for but only two of these p[anned are these are planned for next year. Shipping samples from Europe now is more risky with Xmass coming up and USPS stressing at your side.
    They shall all be made in the USA and I'll supply these in Europe. For other countries, ask your local customs if there is any paperwork involved in receiving just bullets and decide on thsat info where these bullets are best sendf from, the US or Europe, For CH its Afa in Brislach that is the Swiss distributor for SP products, he is selling SP goodies allover CH in all three languages being English, German and French, the other two languages are a tiny bit more complicated for him but he allso to their areas.

    The genuine GP11 available now is the 100 yards variant so the second bullet that we are going to make is the WWII variant so your K31's can more easy beat all these Swede Mausers
    Last edited by Guisan; 11-29-2014, 2:02 PM.
    Fight to your last cartridge, then fight with your bayonets.
    No surrender. Fight to the death.

    Gen. Henri Guisan, Switzerland, July '40

    Swissrifles.com forum;
    http://theswissriflesdotcommessageboard.yuku.com/

    Email: guisan-info@bluewin.ch
  • #2
    ducky_0811
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 759

    This is good news! Can you let out who will be producing them here in the usa? And what we can expect to pay for 100 or 500?

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    • #3
      Guisan
      In Memoriam
      • Sep 2012
      • 368

      Originally posted by ducky_0811
      This is good news! Can you let out who will be producing them here in the usa? And what we can expect to pay for 100 or 500?








      We can't say yet as we don't know the the true production cost but we plan to stay just under Sierra ones as we do specialize only on the 7.5 caliber for now and this also a good message to French rifle shooters ...
      Fight to your last cartridge, then fight with your bayonets.
      No surrender. Fight to the death.

      Gen. Henri Guisan, Switzerland, July '40

      Swissrifles.com forum;
      http://theswissriflesdotcommessageboard.yuku.com/

      Email: guisan-info@bluewin.ch

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      • #4
        1-M-42
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 1232

        That is awesome Frank
        sigpicCertainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never really care for anything else thereafter.
        Ernest Hemingway, "On the Blue Water," Esquire, April 1936

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        • #5
          Guisan
          In Memoriam
          • Sep 2012
          • 368

          I know, that is why this is my hobby, my goal is to keep all Swiss guns working the same way as in the times they were used by the military...
          Fight to your last cartridge, then fight with your bayonets.
          No surrender. Fight to the death.

          Gen. Henri Guisan, Switzerland, July '40

          Swissrifles.com forum;
          http://theswissriflesdotcommessageboard.yuku.com/

          Email: guisan-info@bluewin.ch

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          • #6
            Capybara
            CGSSA Coordinator
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2012
            • 15277

            Looking forward to this. I have not yet been reloading for my K31 but this gives me motivation to do so.
            NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor, Shotgun Instructor and Range Safety Officer

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            • #7
              74c5
              Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 323

              It's not April 1st.

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              • #8
                OpenSightsOnly
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 1557

                Originally posted by Guisan
                I know, that is why this is my hobby, my goal is to keep all Swiss guns working the same way as in the times they were used by the military...
                For GP90/23 platform, I can see the benefits.

                However, for 7.5x55, there are .308 projectiles (Berger 175 gr in .308 is similar to GP11) that work well for 96/11 and the K31 while powder, brass casing, and primers are available.

                That said, what is the benefit of offering a GP11 projectile?

                Just wondering

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                • #9
                  SanPedroShooter
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 9732

                  I was just talking about this with someone not even five minutes ago.

                  Does anyone reload for their 1889 or 7.5x53?

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                  • #10
                    Sousuke
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 3815

                    How is production on the Left hand Op Rod's coming?
                    Everyone on Calguns keeps talking about TDS. I never knew we had so many fish keepers!

                    The TDS on my 10gallon tanks 110ppm
                    The TDS on my 29 gallon tank is 150ppm (due to substrate)

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                    • #11
                      kouye
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 937

                      Sweet. My K31's like Lapua Scenar 155gr but they're kind of pricey so I hope these do as well and are a bit cheaper.

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                      • #12
                        ducky_0811
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 759

                        ^^^this is the true true benefit to me. There are 175 gr projectiles that are similar to the gp11's ogive contour with the VLD designs but they'll cost you an testicle compared to offerings from Sierra or hornady, nosler, etc. As long as they don't cost what a berger 175 VLD does I'm game.

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                        • #13
                          smle-man
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 10580

                          I was told that the U.S. M72 match bullet mimics the GP11 pretty much exactly. Is that correct?

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                          • #14
                            OpenSightsOnly
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 1557

                            M72 bullet is 173 gr projo so it's close to GP11 weight.

                            M72 bullet looks like 175 gr SMK, long bearing surface.

                            GP11 is VLD, short bearing surface, just like the German s.S 198 gr. bullet or Berger's 175 gr. VLD in .308.

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                            • #15
                              Guisan
                              In Memoriam
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 368

                              Originally posted by Sousuke
                              How is production on the Left hand Op Rod's coming?
                              I send a 20lb parcel with 96 operating rods 2 months ago but demand of the other things like mounts that there is somply no time to produce LHO's now.
                              Patience...

                              When you are located in Europe I can supply you one at 250 euro.
                              Fight to your last cartridge, then fight with your bayonets.
                              No surrender. Fight to the death.

                              Gen. Henri Guisan, Switzerland, July '40

                              Swissrifles.com forum;
                              http://theswissriflesdotcommessageboard.yuku.com/

                              Email: guisan-info@bluewin.ch

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