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    • Jan 2008
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    Buying from a regular gun store

    If one were to buy something that is considered C&R from their local shop would they still need to log it into their bound book?
  • #2
    ccandgc
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 2142

    yup.
    -Chad

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    • #3
      savasyn
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2007
      • 3201

      Yes, you still have to log anything that is considered C&R. As I learned not too long ago, accept the concept that you ARE licensed, you don't USE your license. In other words, any transactions that fall under the C&R category should be logged while licensed.

      Better to have more info than less in case of an audit.

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      • #4
        gun toting monkeyboy
        Calguns Addict
        • Aug 2008
        • 6820

        Hmmm... Are you guys sure on this one? The woman at the ATF who handles the C&R questions told me that I only needed to log in items bought on my license. If I get it at a gun store and go through the regular process with the DROS and 10 day wait, they are not bought using my license, therefore don't need to logged in. And the local PD and the gunsmith who is SD county's resident expert for the PD court cases both agree that you don't need to log in guns that you don't buy on your license.
        -Mb
        Originally posted by aplinker
        It's OK not to post when you have no clue what you're talking about.

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        • #5
          762cavalier
          NRA Training Counselor
          CGN Contributor
          • Oct 2005
          • 3626

          GTMB- Yes we are sure. Remember as Savasyn said. you don't USE your license. you ARE licensed. Your bound book is a record of all C&R firearms acquired while you are licensed.
          In any type of fight, & especially gun fights, there are no winners ..... just varying degrees of losers. The only fight you win is the one you never get into.

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          • #6
            Mssr. Eleganté
            Blue Blaze Irregular
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2005
            • 10401

            Originally posted by gun toting monkeyboy
            Hmmm... Are you guys sure on this one?

            Here is what the Code of Federal Regulations says about it...

            each receipt and disposition of firearms curios or relics. The record required by this paragraph shall be maintained in bound form under the format prescribed below. The purchase or other acquisition of a curio or relic shall, except as provided in paragraph (g) of this section, be recorded not later than the close of the next business day following the date of such purchase or other acquisition...
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            • #7
              NRAhighpowershooter
              Super Moderator
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jun 2003
              • 6485

              ALSO...if you receive a C&R rifle form the CMP you still log it in even though you didn't your C&R to aquire it.......
              'Just Don't Point, Squint, and Laugh! '

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              • #8
                ke6guj
                Moderator
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Nov 2003
                • 23725

                And if you sell a pre-owned C&R firearm from before you were licensed, you should enter into the bound book as "pre-licensed inventory" or something to that effect, and then log it out to the buyer.

                Basically, ATF has issued opinion letters all over the map on if pre-licensed firearms need to logged if sold, and if buying a C&R "without using your license". But the basic consensus seems to be that it is safer to "over log" your bound book, than to "under log" your bound book.
                Jack



                Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                • #9
                  gun toting monkeyboy
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 6820

                  Ok. This is a better safe than sorry thing. I can deal with that.
                  Originally posted by aplinker
                  It's OK not to post when you have no clue what you're talking about.

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