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  • #31
    billybob_jcv
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 1507

    Isn't Howard's mostly orange oil & beeswax?
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    • #32
      Raptor3000
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 2836

      Originally posted by billybob_jcv
      Isn't Howard's mostly orange oil & beeswax?
      Yes

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      • #33
        geeknow
        Lifetime Contributor #1
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Aug 2007
        • 3144

        San Pedro shooter nailed it, in his earlier post. European walnut looks different than. American Black Walnut (juglans niegra). It is generally blonde than American walnut. Also, yours could have been made from a piece of the sapwood, which is blonde still. American Black Walnut, which primarily grows in the eastern US is darker. California Walnut tends to lean more towards the purple hues.

        I'm basing this on 20 years spent in the hardwood and exotic lumber industry.

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        • #34
          Raptor3000
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 2836

          Originally posted by geeknow
          San Pedro shooter nailed it, in his earlier post. European walnut looks different than. American Black Walnut (juglans niegra). It is generally blonde than American walnut. Also, yours could have been made from a piece of the sapwood, which is blonde still. American Black Walnut, which primarily grows in the eastern US is darker. California Walnut tends to lean more towards the purple hues.

          I'm basing this on 20 years spent in the hardwood and exotic lumber industry.
          What do I have a beech or walnut stock?

          thanks

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          • #35
            geeknow
            Lifetime Contributor #1
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Aug 2007
            • 3144

            Walnut.

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            • #36
              Latigo
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 2121

              I think some know-it-all addressed this in post #19 in the link.



              Its all there for a reasonably reasonable reason. And it's actually on the CalGuns C&R Forum!!

              Maybe it's time for me to show some stock comparisons. I'll do it later this evening.
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              • #37
                SanPedroShooter
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2010
                • 9732

                Originally posted by geeknow
                Walnut.
                Really? My bet is beech. I disagree in the friendliest way possible you understand. I am willing to admit I am wrong.

                Its the year of the stock, 1947 which is supposedly on the cusp of the switch.

                Why do you think Walnut?

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                • #38
                  SanPedroShooter
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 9732

                  OP's picture

                  Originally posted by SanPedroShooter


                  Original picture.

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                  • #39
                    Latigo
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2121

                    SPS, that mottled appearance and the buttplate extending outside the stock pretty much screams refinish. Do you have a close up of the finger grooves and butt?
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                    • #40
                      Latigo
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 2121

                      Originally posted by glennsche
                      that'd be walnut.

                      if the stock looks like "a blonde", she's a beech. if she's "a brunette", she's a walnut.

                      see if you can pick which is which, and which is more like yours!

                      Glenesche, unless I'm sadly mistaken, both of those rifles appear to be refinished.
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                      • #41
                        geeknow
                        Lifetime Contributor #1
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 3144

                        Originally posted by SanPedroShooter
                        Really? My bet is beech. I disagree in the friendliest way possible you understand. I am willing to admit I am wrong.

                        Its the year of the stock, 1947 which is supposedly on the cusp of the switch.

                        Why do you think Walnut?
                        I dont see any of the characteristics of Beech (aka "silky oak"). There is none of the "flake", which is a result of cutting across the medullary rays. There is none of the "rice mark" that characterizes beech.

                        I do see characteristics of Walnut. European (sometimes called Circassian, Turkish, etc) has a distinct look to it, in that there is not the striking contrast between springwood and deadwood, that you find in American (Black) Walnut.

                        Wood Blank_3828.jpg

                        Here is a photo of European Walnut, for reference.

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                        • #42
                          SanPedroShooter
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 9732

                          Originally posted by geeknow
                          I dont see any of the characteristics of Beech (aka "silky oak"). There is none of the "flake", which is a result of cutting across the medullary rays. There is none of the "rice mark" that characterizes beech.

                          I do see characteristics of Walnut. European (sometimes called Circassian, Turkish, etc) has a distinct look to it, in that there is not the striking contrast between springwood and deadwood, that you find in American (Black) Walnut.

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                          Here is a photo of European Walnut, for reference.
                          Fascinating.

                          Latigo, that's not my picture. That's the OP's picture I posted for him.

                          I have an early 40' K31 with walnut the color of caramel. I'll put up a picture when I get home next week.

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                          • #43
                            Latigo
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 2121

                            Got it.
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