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  • Ken O
    Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 131

    H&R vs. Springfield Garand

    HI, can any of you Garand experts out there tell me if there is any quality difference between the H&R and the Springfield Garand. I'm looking at buying a 1954 H&R and thought I should check first.
    thanks, Ken
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  • #2
    highpower790
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 3481

    If its in good condition,there should be no difference in quality.I have one of each,they all shoot good!
    Keep it simple!

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    • #3
      ccandgc
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 2142

      There shouldn't be any difference at all, except condition of any given example.
      Springfield made garands before, during and after WW2, totaling about 4 million. HRA manufactured during and a while after Korea ended...around 430,000. I have a few garands and they are all unique and awesome in their own rights....so I personally would snag that HRA if it's in decent condition....
      -Chad

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      • #4
        mls343
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 1543

        HRA's are generally newer, but Springers are classic. Both will shoot superbly. Get it as you will not be disappointed.
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        • #5
          pro-nra
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 2270

          I have all four manufacturer and this is my $0.20 opinion on the quality as each rifle comes out of the production line. I rank them as follows:
          #1, HRA. They are just well built sexy rifles.
          #2, Late SA. Just a hair shy of equaling the HRA.
          #3, IHC. Good quality rifles.
          #4, WWII SA. From the pressure of war production, quality not as good as post war SA.
          #5, WRA. Ever seen the underside of a WRA receiver? You can use it as a file. Nough said.
          Last edited by pro-nra; 09-20-2014, 3:47 PM.

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          • #6
            TMB 1
            Calguns Addict
            • Dec 2012
            • 7153

            Originally posted by pro-nra
            This is my $0.20 opinion on the quality from the four manufacturer as it comes out of the production line. I rank them as follows:
            #1, HRA. They are just well built sexy rifles.
            #2, Late SA. Just a hair shy of equaling the HRA.
            #3, IHC. Good quality rifles.
            #4, WWII SA. From the pressure of war production, quality not as good as post war SA.
            #5, WRA. Ever seen the underside of a WRA receiver? You can use it as a file. Nough said.
            They're all quality made, some just have better finish than others. If they weren't quality I don't think WWII SA & WRA made 70+ years ago would still be going strong today.
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            • #7
              smle-man
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2007
              • 10580

              The HRA benefits from all of the final engineering changes in the M-1 rifle series. the M-1 was continuously tweaked throughout series production. That said, for the shooter they are interchangeable.

              Minus 10 points if you refer to the Springfield manufactured rifle as a 'Springer' and minus 20 for 'Winnie'. Just pointing this out.

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              • #8
                Orlando
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 1827

                Forget the manufacture you want to inspec the individual rifles and pic the best of the two

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                • #9
                  ccandgc
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 2142

                  Originally posted by smle-man
                  Minus 10 points if you refer to the Springfield manufactured rifle as a 'Springer' and minus 20 for 'Winnie'. Just pointing this out.
                  Is that like "shotty"?
                  -Chad

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                  • #10
                    Father Ted
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 889

                    Originally posted by smle-man

                    Minus 10 points if you refer to the Springfield manufactured rifle as a 'Springer' and minus 20 for 'Winnie'. Just pointing this out.
                    What if you call HRA "Harry" and IHC "Harvey"?
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                    • #11
                      NOTABIKER
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 7635

                      first choice should be a WW 2 Garand for the history

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                      • #12
                        Bobby Ricigliano
                        Mit Gott und Mauser
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 17439

                        HRA seems less common on the market. Since they made a lot less of them I guess that makes sense. The only Garand I would avoid would be a Century or National Ordnance receiver. But collectors don't even acknowledge these secondary options. I almost bought one before I new better. Stick to the big 4!

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                        • #13
                          Ken O
                          Member
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 131

                          Thanks, I'm going to seal the deal. It has great CMP ratings and is a beautiful looking gun. Even though someday I might have to get a dinged up WW2 era Garand for my collection.
                          thanks, Ken
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                          • #14
                            kurac
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 2917

                            HRA turned out some nice M1's. When ordering from the CMP, you probably have a better chance of getting a nice HRA than a nice SA. It seems like the timing was just right decades ago to make that possible today.
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                            • #15
                              Crunch130
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 750

                              My dad was one of Patton's infantrymen summer of '44 through VE Day. Last year in March when the CMP was only officially accepting orders for H&Rs, I ordered one but wrote a request on a yellow sticky for a Springfield with a S/N less than about 3.2 million (so it could have been at the Battle of the Bulge) mentioning my dad's service. They sent me a 2.01 million (Oct '43) SA with all marked metal parts being SA, even the 1946 replacement barrel.

                              I got exactly what I wanted.

                              Crunch
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