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  • Saigon1965
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Nov 2003
    • 17278

    No.4 Mk. IV SMLE -

    Want a brand new clone? In 7.62x51 -




     AIA M10A1 rifle, 7.62×39 caliber.    AIA M10A2 rifle, 7.62×39 caliber.    AIA M10B1 rifle, 7.62×51 / .308 Win caliber.    AIA M10B2 rifle, 7.62×51 / .308 Win caliber with optional bipod and Picatinny rail.     M10A1 M10A2 M10B1 M10B2 Type / action manually operated bolt cation Caliber 7.62×39 mm Russian 7.62×51 / .308...



  • #2
    Father Ted
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 889

    No thanks
    "The answer to 1984 is 1776!" - Mahatma Gandhi

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    • #3
      Capybara
      CGSSA Coordinator
      CGN Contributor
      • Feb 2012
      • 15548

      Chinese? For $700.00, you could get a pretty nice real Enfield, not sure why the Canadians would rather have a weird clone for that money? For $299.00, I would buy one as a shooter in a heartbeat.
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      • #4
        DennisCA
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 4067

        Originally posted by Father Ted
        No thanks
        Totally agree!

        Isn't that why the Ishapore 2A1 rifle was created?
        "The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke speech of 23 April 1770, "Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontents," delivered to the House of Commons.

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        • #5
          Quiet
          retired Goon
          • Mar 2007
          • 30242

          Australian International Arms (AIA) Enfield clones are all new production and not made from surplus parts.

          They are also banned for importation into the USA by the US State Department, due to some of the firearm parts being made in in Vietnam, which is a no-go firearm import/export country.

          Several hundred AIA M10-A series were imported into the USA prior to the importation ban. They show up every now and then on auction sites or on the shelves of Gander Mountain stores (Gander Mountain was the importer for the AIA rifles), priced in the $600-800 range depending on condition & accessories.

          The AIA M10-A series is chambered in 7.62x39mm and uses standard AK magazines.
          The AIA M10-B series is chambered in 7.62x51mm and uses M14 magazines.
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          "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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          • #6
            Syntax Error
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 3817

            I'm going to go against the flow and say I kinda like these repro guns chambered for more affordable calibers. I wonder if anyone will ever make a decent Mauser K98k clone chambered for something like .308?

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            • #7
              DennisCA
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 4067

              Originally posted by Syntax Error
              I'm going to go against the flow and say I kinda like these repro guns chambered for more affordable calibers. I wonder if anyone will ever make a decent Mauser K98k clone chambered for something like .308?
              It's all ready been done - I believe it's called a Israeli Mauser
              "The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke speech of 23 April 1770, "Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontents," delivered to the House of Commons.

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              • #8
                knucklehead0202
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2008
                • 4087

                If they were a lot cheaper it'd be pretty cool. Imagine what a handy little hunting rifle the one in 7.62x39 would be. To stuff the first person about to say "that's not a good hunting round", it's better ballistically than 30-30, which has killed an absolute crap-ton of critters in this country. Interesting idea but I don't see a market for them here at those prices.

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                • #9
                  VegasND
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 8621

                  These Australian No. 4 Rifles in 7.62x51 have interested me for a long time. I even looked into the possibility of bringing one back if I found my way to Canada.

                  Alas, it looks like there's no way to legally get one into the USA without a change in the law.

                  If you're going to visit the Marstar web page be sure to check out other imports denied to those of us who live in the 'land of the free'
                  People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.
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                  • #10
                    smle-man
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 10599

                    Ask the folks on this forum their opinion of the Vietnamese #4s:



                    Some have had good luck with them, some not so much.

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                    • #11
                      Swagman00
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 4149

                      Looks like the demand for rifles in the "Lesser free" countries is doing well.

                      I'll stick to my AK kits for half that.
                      Anyway...here's a dearth of reasoning to ponder: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Guns

                      Originally posted by movie zombie
                      and you guys wonder why women are fed up with bad behavior?!

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                      • #12
                        Beetle Bailey
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 2620

                        Armalon make an Enfield that takes m1 carbine mags and is chambered in 30 carbine.

                        Armalon Ltd Company Information Based In Central London
                        "All bad precedents began as justifiable measures." Julius Caesar

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                        • #13
                          eighteenninetytwo
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 1545

                          Yeah but if I got that then I'd have to get an M1 carbine also.....oh yeah. Great ideA..

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                          • #14
                            Saigon1965
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 17278

                            I see them time to time on GB -

                            That ban might go away soon - VN wants to ramp up for future conflict -

                            Originally posted by Quiet
                            Australian International Arms (AIA) Enfield clones are all new production and not made from surplus parts.

                            They are also banned for importation into the USA by the US State Department, due to some of the firearm parts being made in in Vietnam, which is a no-go firearm import/export country.

                            Several hundred AIA M10-A series were imported into the USA prior to the importation ban. They show up every now and then on auction sites or on the shelves of Gander Mountain stores (Gander Mountain was the importer for the AIA rifles), priced in the $600-800 range depending on condition & accessories.

                            The AIA M10-A series is chambered in 7.62x39mm and uses standard AK magazines.
                            The AIA M10-B series is chambered in 7.62x51mm and uses M14 magazines.

                            Take a trip....

                            Originally posted by VegasND
                            These Australian No. 4 Rifles in 7.62x51 have interested me for a long time. I even looked into the possibility of bringing one back if I found my way to Canada.

                            Alas, it looks like there's no way to legally get one into the USA without a change in the law.

                            If you're going to visit the Marstar web page be sure to check out other imports denied to those of us who live in the 'land of the free'

                            Everyone should have a Carbine - If not two!

                            Originally posted by eighteenninetytwo
                            Yeah but if I got that then I'd have to get an M1 carbine also.....oh yeah. Great ideA..

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                            • #15
                              eighteenninetytwo
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 1545

                              Probable reason these are popular in Canada is that is the 60s and 70s Canadian arsenals made DCRA rifles which were No4 rifles in 7.62mm NATO. They made about 2000 and they were extremely accurate and widely used for service rifle competition. To get a real DCRA No.4 now costs a hefty sum so I can see these filling a market niche.

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