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  • TRAP55
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2008
    • 5536

    A Better Mouse Trap

    I just ran across this on another forum and thought you might find it as interesting as I do. I've always been fascinated with vintage gun sights and scopes, and sometimes add some to my vintage guns when I can afford them.
    I remember seeing one of these years ago, and thinking to myself that bubba had an ingenious idea. Never thought they might have been commercially made, very interesting set up.
    The mount was made by Eneco Weather Guard, circa 1940's. It mounts the scope central over bore, in this case on a 1886 Winchester. The problem with that is, the 1886 can't eject a round and it smacks the scope. The simple solution is to mount the scope with an offset side mount. The draw back to that is, windage changes with elevation changes.
    The rings are attached to a "tip off" style mount. The rod is attached to the rear scope ring, and to the lever. When the lever is opened for ejection, the rod pulls and tips the scope over out of the way for the ejecting round.
    When the lever is closed chambering another round, it pushes the scope back over into position.



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    ElvenSoul
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Apr 2008
    • 17431

    Neat!
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    • #3
      Flyin Brian
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      • Oct 2009
      • 3395

      That's a great piece there. My Grandfather had an 1894 with a side mounted scope on it, I always thought it looked funny with the mount that was on it. My older brother ended up with it, so I've never shot it
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      • #4
        justin4fun
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 601

        Very cool TRAP. Now you find one for sale.

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        • #5
          knucklehead0202
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2008
          • 4087

          awesome

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          • #6
            6mmintl
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 4822

            Pachmayr made a lo-swing mount for the M1Garand in the 60's that you swing over to the left to clip load the 8 rounds.

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            • #7
              Enfield47
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2012
              • 6385

              Pretty ingenious idea. It would be interesting if someone could figure out how combine the flip to side mount like the ARs have and have it actuated by the bolt going back in the receiver. Same idea as Trap posted but it would move the scope even further out of the way.

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              • #8
                TRAP55
                Calguns Addict
                • Jul 2008
                • 5536

                Originally posted by Enfield47
                Pretty ingenious idea. It would be interesting if someone could figure out how combine the flip to side mount like the ARs have and have it actuated by the bolt going back in the receiver. Same idea as Trap posted but it would move the scope even further out of the way.
                Great minds think alike?
                I was thinking about a cam, as part of the extractor, to lift and tip the mount. Spring load the mount, to drop back into position when it's closed. That would eliminate that steel rod on the side.
                Some of the old iron sights were way ahead of their time too. One of my favorites is the Dockendorf front globe sight. My 38/55 Ballard has one with the gold crosshairs. The sight hood has a slide open window on top. When open, sunlight lights up the crosshairs, like the ones in an illuminated scope. I have another with a single horizontal gold wire, with a gold bead in the center. Now I have to find a rifle for it.


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