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  • #16
    Mesa Tactical
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2004
    • 1746

    Who is selling these in Southern California? I've wanted one for a while to go with my Makarov.
    Lucy at www.mesatactical.com

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    • #17
      kenc9
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2003
      • 1774

      You have to get them online as far as I know of. The current importers have the best price and is the way to go. If you need help finding them I'll show you where. They are running 139.00 + mailing+DROS+ whatever the FFL charges you.

      -ken
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      • #18
        maxicon
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 4661

        Originally posted by saki302
        I have read from multiple sources that the Tokarev action is much stronger- it's surprising when you hold the two side by side- the CZ feels like a tank compared to the Tok
        The CZ52 definitely feels like a tank, but the problem is where the barrel is milled out for the rollers, and the wall thickness is only 0.058". The Tokarev minimum chamber wall thickness is more like 0.120".

        This is where the chamber fails when overloaded. It's safe for factory loads, or they'd be blowing up all the time. There are reports of CZ52s going ka-boom, like just about any handgun, but these are the exception.

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        • #19
          kenc9
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2003
          • 1774

          When you over load these the gun will fail before the brass or primer but with the hot load these have I don't see why they do it except to push it.

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          • #20
            saki302
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2005
            • 7186

            Yep- like the guy who was overloading them on purpose just to get them to blow up

            Another oldie but goodie if you like odd mechanical actions and if you can find one is a Bayard 1908 pocket pistol in .380. It's a bit smaller than a P3AT, but thicker and heavier, and the thing has a recoil buffer built in with a rotating internal hammer- not bad for 1908!

            -Dave

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