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  • Kelster1574
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 1053

    Bubba or Sporter

    Bubba or Sporter - I here the two references all the time. Question is what's the difference? I am in the process of changing up my Mosin 91/30. I have had a boxed Mosin and a ATI stock for months, so I ordered some parts. Tinmey trigger, Rock Solid Ind. Picatiny Scope Mount, new bolt, and a flash hider/suppressor. Plan is to chop down and thread the barrel, drop in the trigger group, drill, tap, and mount the RSI mount, swap out the bolt, bolt it in the stock, then add a decent scope and rings. So am I a bubba or a sporter?
    www.thekelster.com



  • #2
    emcon5
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3347

    Bubba.

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    • #3
      knucklehead0202
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 4087

      Depends on who you ask really. Most people consider anything done nowadays to be a bubba job, and I kind of agree. What I usually consider a sporter is an older military rifle that someone lovingly took the time to craft into a beautiful sporting arm, generally done a long long time ago with old-world craftsmanship. Lotta stuff now consists of a drop-in stock, a no-gunsmithing scope mount, other little things that don't really require any degree of skill to pull off, and most look kind of cheesy too. That said, I'm building a similar mosin "bubba" or "sporter" so don't let it get you down. I do really like a well-done old military sporter though, kinda pissed that I sold all mine now. Oh well, made room for more pretty unmolested rifles so I guess it's all right.

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      • #4
        NOTABIKER
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2012
        • 7635

        My personal interpretation is if it was Sported in the 1950s-60s it was sported by a importer to sell as a hunting rifle instead of being sold for scrap metal. a honorable thing to do. Or it might have been sold surplus and the buyer changed the stock or maybe put a scope on it. Another honorable thing to do back then. these surplus rifles back then were not considered collectable at all.
        I am OK with finding a rifle that has already been altered past putting back to original and playing with it. But why mod a old military rifle that has survived 60-70 years in original condition.

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        • #5
          Marcus von W.
          Banned
          • Apr 2010
          • 1675

          Is that banjo music I hear?

          "Sporter" is what the drooling toothless inbred albino with the hacksaw thinks his newly created "dear riffel" is.

          "Bubba" is what he and his ugly and ruined rifle really are.

          Don't do it - it's a dangerous and slippery slope.

          First you are chopping up historic vintage rifles and sticking them in cheap and nasty looking plastic "dildo" stocks that look like some kind of futuristic sex toy that gay space aliens stick up each other's butts.

          Next thing you know, you think "Deliverance" is a love story, you are trying out your favorite pick-up lines like "You got a pretty mouth" on your sister and barnyard livestock, and then you end up down by the river trying to romance guys in canoes.

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          • #6
            emcon5
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 3347

            Kelster, you seem to think the terms are somehow mutually exclusive.

            Sporterizing a milsurp rifle made a lot of sense when they were a fraction of the price of the bottom of the line Remington or Winchester, and could be found by the barrel full in the local hardware store. Those days are long gone.

            With a Mosin, you will spend $300 turning a $150 gun into a $100 gun, that won't be as accurate as a bottom of the line Wal-Mart/Big 5 bolt gun.

            The sad thing is that the money you are spending would be about the same as the price of a real "tactical" Mosin, a PU Sniper.

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            • #7
              DennisCA
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 4067

              This is a example of a "sporter-ized" rifle:


              Someone (NOT ME) took a very nice Remington M1903a3 and sporterized it.
              Decent job, not the best but not the worst I've seen either.

              A bubba mosin? - just google the phrase and you'll see plenty of examples!

              There's one on this forum and a couple post down (hint-metal mosin)
              Last edited by DennisCA; 07-16-2014, 10:45 AM.
              "The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke speech of 23 April 1770, "Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontents," delivered to the House of Commons.

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              • #8
                echo1
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 3927

                You be Bubba. PAX
                You need a crew

                "A free people should be armed and disciplined" (George Washington),

                Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.~John Adams 1798

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                • #9
                  Kelster1574
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 1053

                  "Kelster, you seem to think the terms are somehow mutually exclusive.

                  Sporterizing a milsurp rifle made a lot of sense when they were a fraction of the price of the bottom of the line Remington or Winchester, and could be found by the barrel full in the local hardware store. Those days are long gone.

                  With a Mosin, you will spend $300 turning a $150 gun into a $100 gun, that won't be as accurate as a bottom of the line Wal-Mart/Big 5 bolt gun.

                  The sad thing is that the money you are spending would be about the same as the price of a real "tactical" Mosin, a PU Sniper."

                  I am just looking to build something fun to shoot, that's different then what I have. Yeah I could go buy another bolt gun, and to me it will end up being like the other 15+ I have in the gun safes. As far as accuracy goes, I walk to the end of the 100 yard range and throw up my target and I am good with hitting the circle....honestly, most of the Mosin's I have shot are just as accurate as many rifles that cost 2-3 times as much. As far as value goes.....I have only sold / traded 2-3 guns over the last 22 years. So to me value is if I like it or not
                  www.thekelster.com



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                  • #10
                    ChuckDizzle
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 4398

                    Bubba, you don't even know if the rifle you have shoots well enough to justify even shooting, much less hot rodding.

                    But hey, if you want to put lipstick on a pig...

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                    • #11
                      mosinnagantm9130
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2009
                      • 8782

                      Bubba.
                      Originally posted by GoodEyeSniper
                      My neighbors think I'm a construction worker named Bruce.

                      Little do they know that's just my stripper outfit and name.
                      Originally posted by ChopperX
                      I am currently cleaning it and I noticed when I squeeze the snake this white paste like substance comes out. What the heck is this crap?
                      Originally posted by Jeff L
                      Don't D&T a virgin milsurp rifle. You'll burn in collector hell.

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                      • #12
                        NOTABIKER
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 7635

                        Originally posted by Kelster1574
                        "Kelster, you seem to think the terms are somehow mutually exclusive.

                        Sporterizing a milsurp rifle made a lot of sense when they were a fraction of the price of the bottom of the line Remington or Winchester, and could be found by the barrel full in the local hardware store. Those days are long gone.

                        With a Mosin, you will spend $300 turning a $150 gun into a $100 gun, that won't be as accurate as a bottom of the line Wal-Mart/Big 5 bolt gun.

                        The sad thing is that the money you are spending would be about the same as the price of a real "tactical" Mosin, a PU Sniper."

                        I am just looking to build something fun to shoot, that's different then what I have. Yeah I could go buy another bolt gun, and to me it will end up being like the other 15+ I have in the gun safes. As far as accuracy goes, I walk to the end of the 100 yard range and throw up my target and I am good with hitting the circle....honestly, most of the Mosin's I have shot are just as accurate as many rifles that cost 2-3 times as much. As far as value goes.....I have only sold / traded 2-3 guns over the last 22 years. So to me value is if I like it or not
                        you earned the right to do whatever you want to a MOSIN.

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                        • #13
                          emcon5
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 3347

                          Originally posted by Kelster1574
                          I am just looking to build something fun to shoot, that's different then what I have. Yeah I could go buy another bolt gun, and to me it will end up being like the other 15+ I have in the gun safes. As far as accuracy goes, I walk to the end of the 100 yard range and throw up my target and I am good with hitting the circle....honestly, most of the Mosin's I have shot are just as accurate as many rifles that cost 2-3 times as much. As far as value goes.....I have only sold / traded 2-3 guns over the last 22 years. So to me value is if I like it or not
                          OK, so why would you try and turn a historic military rifle into a poor equivalent of a modern bolt gun? That makes it more fun to shoot somehow?

                          I have as much fun shooting milsurps with iron sights as I do shooting my PU or my modern bolt guns.

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                          • #14
                            SanDiegoMan
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 644

                            For the record, timney triggers don't "drop in" according to what I've read. May need some fitting. Sometimes the ATI stock also needs fitting.... my T53 extractor wasn't working till i dremeled some material off the inside of the ATI stock.

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                            • #15
                              Kelster1574
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 1053

                              Originally posted by ChuckDizzle
                              Bubba, you don't even know if the rifle you have shoots well enough to justify even shooting, much less hot rodding.

                              But hey, if you want to put lipstick on a pig...
                              I agree....I am rolling the dice
                              www.thekelster.com



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