Bubba or Sporter - I here the two references all the time. Question is what's the difference? I am in the process of changing up my Mosin 91/30. I have had a boxed Mosin and a ATI stock for months, so I ordered some parts. Tinmey trigger, Rock Solid Ind. Picatiny Scope Mount, new bolt, and a flash hider/suppressor. Plan is to chop down and thread the barrel, drop in the trigger group, drill, tap, and mount the RSI mount, swap out the bolt, bolt it in the stock, then add a decent scope and rings. So am I a bubba or a sporter?
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Depends on who you ask really. Most people consider anything done nowadays to be a bubba job, and I kind of agree. What I usually consider a sporter is an older military rifle that someone lovingly took the time to craft into a beautiful sporting arm, generally done a long long time ago with old-world craftsmanship. Lotta stuff now consists of a drop-in stock, a no-gunsmithing scope mount, other little things that don't really require any degree of skill to pull off, and most look kind of cheesy too. That said, I'm building a similar mosin "bubba" or "sporter" so don't let it get you down. I do really like a well-done old military sporter though, kinda pissed that I sold all mine now. Oh well, made room for more pretty unmolested rifles so I guess it's all right.Comment
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My personal interpretation is if it was Sported in the 1950s-60s it was sported by a importer to sell as a hunting rifle instead of being sold for scrap metal. a honorable thing to do. Or it might have been sold surplus and the buyer changed the stock or maybe put a scope on it. Another honorable thing to do back then. these surplus rifles back then were not considered collectable at all.
I am OK with finding a rifle that has already been altered past putting back to original and playing with it. But why mod a old military rifle that has survived 60-70 years in original condition.Comment
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Is that banjo music I hear?
"Sporter" is what the drooling toothless inbred albino with the hacksaw thinks his newly created "dear riffel" is.
"Bubba" is what he and his ugly and ruined rifle really are.
Don't do it - it's a dangerous and slippery slope.
First you are chopping up historic vintage rifles and sticking them in cheap and nasty looking plastic "dildo" stocks that look like some kind of futuristic sex toy that gay space aliens stick up each other's butts.
Next thing you know, you think "Deliverance" is a love story, you are trying out your favorite pick-up lines like "You got a pretty mouth" on your sister and barnyard livestock, and then you end up down by the river trying to romance guys in canoes.Comment
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Kelster, you seem to think the terms are somehow mutually exclusive.
Sporterizing a milsurp rifle made a lot of sense when they were a fraction of the price of the bottom of the line Remington or Winchester, and could be found by the barrel full in the local hardware store. Those days are long gone.
With a Mosin, you will spend $300 turning a $150 gun into a $100 gun, that won't be as accurate as a bottom of the line Wal-Mart/Big 5 bolt gun.
The sad thing is that the money you are spending would be about the same as the price of a real "tactical" Mosin, a PU Sniper.Comment
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This is a example of a "sporter-ized" rifle:

Someone (NOT ME) took a very nice Remington M1903a3 and sporterized it.
Decent job, not the best but not the worst I've seen either.
A bubba mosin? - just google the phrase and you'll see plenty of examples!
There's one on this forum and a couple post down (hint-metal mosin)Last edited by DennisCA; 07-16-2014, 10:45 AM."The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke speech of 23 April 1770, "Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontents," delivered to the House of Commons.Comment
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"Kelster, you seem to think the terms are somehow mutually exclusive.
Sporterizing a milsurp rifle made a lot of sense when they were a fraction of the price of the bottom of the line Remington or Winchester, and could be found by the barrel full in the local hardware store. Those days are long gone.
With a Mosin, you will spend $300 turning a $150 gun into a $100 gun, that won't be as accurate as a bottom of the line Wal-Mart/Big 5 bolt gun.
The sad thing is that the money you are spending would be about the same as the price of a real "tactical" Mosin, a PU Sniper."
I am just looking to build something fun to shoot, that's different then what I have. Yeah I could go buy another bolt gun, and to me it will end up being like the other 15+ I have in the gun safes. As far as accuracy goes, I walk to the end of the 100 yard range and throw up my target and I am good with hitting the circle....honestly, most of the Mosin's I have shot are just as accurate as many rifles that cost 2-3 times as much. As far as value goes.....I have only sold / traded 2-3 guns over the last 22 years. So to me value is if I like it or notComment
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Bubba, you don't even know if the rifle you have shoots well enough to justify even shooting, much less hot rodding.
But hey, if you want to put lipstick on a pig...Comment
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Bubba.Originally posted by GoodEyeSniperMy neighbors think I'm a construction worker named Bruce.
Little do they know that's just my stripper outfit and name.Originally posted by ChopperXI am currently cleaning it and I noticed when I squeeze the snake this white paste like substance comes out. What the heck is this crap?Originally posted by Jeff LDon't D&T a virgin milsurp rifle. You'll burn in collector hell.Comment
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you earned the right to do whatever you want to a MOSIN."Kelster, you seem to think the terms are somehow mutually exclusive.
Sporterizing a milsurp rifle made a lot of sense when they were a fraction of the price of the bottom of the line Remington or Winchester, and could be found by the barrel full in the local hardware store. Those days are long gone.
With a Mosin, you will spend $300 turning a $150 gun into a $100 gun, that won't be as accurate as a bottom of the line Wal-Mart/Big 5 bolt gun.
The sad thing is that the money you are spending would be about the same as the price of a real "tactical" Mosin, a PU Sniper."
I am just looking to build something fun to shoot, that's different then what I have. Yeah I could go buy another bolt gun, and to me it will end up being like the other 15+ I have in the gun safes. As far as accuracy goes, I walk to the end of the 100 yard range and throw up my target and I am good with hitting the circle....honestly, most of the Mosin's I have shot are just as accurate as many rifles that cost 2-3 times as much. As far as value goes.....I have only sold / traded 2-3 guns over the last 22 years. So to me value is if I like it or not
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OK, so why would you try and turn a historic military rifle into a poor equivalent of a modern bolt gun? That makes it more fun to shoot somehow?I am just looking to build something fun to shoot, that's different then what I have. Yeah I could go buy another bolt gun, and to me it will end up being like the other 15+ I have in the gun safes. As far as accuracy goes, I walk to the end of the 100 yard range and throw up my target and I am good with hitting the circle....honestly, most of the Mosin's I have shot are just as accurate as many rifles that cost 2-3 times as much. As far as value goes.....I have only sold / traded 2-3 guns over the last 22 years. So to me value is if I like it or not
I have as much fun shooting milsurps with iron sights as I do shooting my PU or my modern bolt guns.Comment
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For the record, timney triggers don't "drop in" according to what I've read. May need some fitting. Sometimes the ATI stock also needs fitting.... my T53 extractor wasn't working till i dremeled some material off the inside of the ATI stock.Comment
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