91/30 PU Sniper $549 Shipped!!!

[Grendl]

These must be the ones with the horrible Molot billboard?

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F3MOSIN9130PU

[Grendl]

So 33 views, no comments. I hope you're not all out there buying them up before you say, "Steal of this short Century!"

[Discogodfather]

I didn't read all of the lengthy explanation on the site but this image is highly suspect to me for a few reasons, so I am not super interested unless they could tell me a few things. These seem like thrown together mismatches.

[Grendl]

Usually Aim seems to operate pretty above-board but they say nothing in that great long body of text about this lot of rifles.

[6mmintl]

$350 dollar scope/mt., $150 scope mounting service, $100 one of 64 million rifle.

What were you expecting? a rare one of 120 thousand original PU sniper?

[mosinnagantm9130]

Refurbished? Yes.

Real? Also yes.

[NOTABIKER]

I have not seen any Big 5 type reproduction mosin PUs in a while. I think with all the real PUs being imported over the last 2 years for not much more money that market is dead.
Even at 549 with shipping, dros and tax that is a 650 dollar rifle. Maybe their are some nice ones in the batch. Also a good chance you will get a dark pitted bore.maybe it is OK to get a dark bore on some mosins but not a PU .

[Discogodfather]

On the picture, I see these issues that makes me say not real:

1) Line-out on scope number (it's in the right place) without a restamp or a scrub and re-stamp. Molot at least made sure that the period correct or date correct scopes would match in some way on all the rifles I have seen

2) Receiver markings. This is not uncommon among importers but I see a stamped number corresponding to the original serial number on the receiver.

This makes me nervous that these are just the odds and ends of the last available PU rifles being hurried together. They could also be X-Pu's that they are putting together.

[chinaserf1]

Discogodfather makes a great argument for it being a restored Ex-sniper rather than a re-arsenaled sniper.

The difference is that the restorers for these may just have remounted some random PU mount and threw a period correct original scope on there without fitting the mount/scope to the rifle properly.

I would expect snipers that have the stamped new scope number to have had an armorer fit the mount, especially Molots with electropencil matched mounts. PW ARMs re-snipers? Who knows.

[Discogodfather]

Discogodfather makes a great argument for it being a restored Ex-sniper rather than a re-arsenaled sniper.

What I am saying is that it's not a re-arsenaled sniper. I have never even seen an "original" sniper. Molot took PU snipers (not x-PU snipers) and force matched scopes to them. No one knows when this was done, could have been during the soviet era or pre 2010. They always struck the numbers and renumbered or ground the original number and re-numbered. They did not mark the receiver with the rifles serial on the exterior of the receiver.

There is also no mention of Molot paperwork, which was included from all the Group West, Classic, and R-Guns.

A checklist for any re-arsenaled Molot PU Sniper:

1) Import mark. One batch was marked on the receiver, the other is marked under the barrel at the muzzle

2) Scope number stamped on the barrel at the left side of the chamber. The number is either all original, struck through and re-stamped, or ground and re-stamped

3) Molot paperwork. A small 3x5inch pamphlet all in Russian with your rifles serial and scope serial marked in pen in the back with the inspectors name

4) Rifles and scopes are matched based on era so the scope should date to within a year of the rifle

5) Mount is electro-penciled with both the scope number and rifle serial number

6) As far as I know the last rifles are with Classic and R-Guns, no one else has them

[NOTABIKER]

My AIM [ molot] 1944 Tula PU has no electro pencil on the scope mount. a old rifle Ser # is still their but lined out and the new rifle Ser# is stamped on the mount. the scope # is stamped on the left side of the barrel. this AIM PU i have is from the first batch AIM did over a year ago. the scope is a somewhat rare
krasnogorsk alloy scope. . i just do not think their are many hard and fast rules on these PUs.

[mosinnagantm9130]

Tuco from gunboards (pretty reputable source) said he personally saw these PU's in military storage at Bryansk ~3-4 years ago now. I've yet to see proof these are fake.