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  • joefrank64k
    @ the Dark End of the Bar
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Mar 2009
    • 10124

    Like odd-ball guns & CA legal SBR's? Then you need a Quackenbush Bicycle Rifle!

    Hello everyone!

    So, as I've previously posted I've got a thing for odd-ball guns. I've got a thing for takedowns. And it turns out, I've also got a thing for CA legal, tax stamp free SBR's.

    May I present the Quackenbush, swinging breech, single shot, takedown, Bicycle Rifle in .22LR. Fed-Ex dropped this baby off about 2 weeks ago, but I haven't had the time to post about it 'till tonight.

    - Now you may be asking yourself, "Self, I get that it's possible to have a properly registered C&R SBR in CA. Did jf64k have to transfer the Quackenbush onto his gun trust and pay the $200 Tax Stamp?" I'm glad you asked! The answer is, "No"

    -- It turns out that the Quackenbush Bicycle rifle with the telescoping wire stock, is listed by name in the BATFE's C&R book as an antique! Head on over to pages 43-44 and have a look. It's removed from both the NFA and the GCA.


    - But then you might ask yourself, "Self, I thought that SBR's, made prior to 1899, that fire rimfire/centerfire fixed ammunition are NOT considered antiques in CA for SBR purposes and might not be exempt from SBR prohibition in CA. Is that right?" I'm also glad you asked. The answer appears to be, "Yes"

    -- As an example: If you have a 15" barrel Marlin Lever Action made in 1898 that fires rimfire/centerfire fixed ammo, it might be an SBR under CA law. If you have the same model made in 1899, and it's serial number is listed in the C&R book, then it's OK in CA if it's properly registered with the feds. (I know, right? WTF?!?)


    - The beauty of my Quackenbush Bicycle Rilfe is that it's listed as an Antique in the C&R book as removed from the NFA - so no Tax Stamp needed - but because my rifle was made AFTER 1899 (you can tell by features) it doesn't meet the CA definition of an antique. But it DOES meet the CA definition of a C&R (which simply tracks 27 CFR 478.11) so it's exempt from CA SBR rules under 17705(a) pc.

    Simple, right? Like RADAR! (100 internets if you get the Three Stooges reference!) BTW....YES, I KNOW that I might have some of the details wrong in my ^ summation. I'm typing this late, please forgive me! The bottom line is that the little Quackenbush is GTG in CA. Thank goodness!


    As for this rifle, it's in great shape. The bore is beautiful! When I got it, it was missing the cocking handle and the extractor. Amazingly, I was able to source BOTH an original cocking handle and extractor. I think the missing pieces kept the price down, because I paid way less than market value, and the missing pieces only ran me about $35.00 total. Like my other Quackenbush, it needs a good cleaning, inside and out. But it's solid otherwise.

    Ok, on to the crazy, non-white balanced, pics (sorry folks, I didn't have the energy to drag the EM-5 downstairs. I know, I know first-world problems are a bi*ch):


















    Last edited by joefrank64k; 05-16-2014, 7:19 AM.
    You will never, in your life, have a chance like this again.
    If I were you, I would not pass this up. I would not let this go by...this is rare.
    Come on...what harm??

    joefrank64k 251/251 100% iTrader?
  • #2
    OniKoroshi
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 1321

    Peanut butter jelly time! Sexy!

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    • #3
      North Bay Guy
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 1230

      It's the Ghost Gun's cousin, the Skeleton Gun.
      Last edited by North Bay Guy; 05-16-2014, 2:26 AM.

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      • #4
        223556
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 3343

        That's pretty awesome!
        "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

        "Between your faith and my Glock 9mm I'll take the Glock."
        - Arnold Schawarzenegger (End of Days)

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        • #5
          surplus-addict
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2011
          • 6534

          Yes yes YEEEEES!

          I'm glad to see you got one! I love the stocks on those
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          • #6
            Capybara
            CGSSA Coordinator
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2012
            • 14786

            Never seen one Joe, pretty freaking cool! I too like odd guns and this looks like a hacksaw, a boys rifle and a trombone had a three way. Very interesting.
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            • #7
              CSACANNONEER
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              • Dec 2006
              • 44092

              Awesome piece of history.
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              • #8
                Father Ted
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 889

                Nice. Do you have a bicycle?
                Cheers
                "The answer to 1984 is 1776!" - Mahatma Gandhi

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                • #9
                  pitfighter
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 3141

                  Very interesting - fun gun.
                  Pitfighter.
                  CA/AZ

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                  • #10
                    joefrank64k
                    @ the Dark End of the Bar
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 10124

                    Originally posted by Father Ted
                    Nice. Do you have a bicycle?
                    Ha! You know, they made (IDK if it was QB or aftermarket) scabbards for the bicycle rifle to mount on your bicycle. Oh no...how much time am I going to waste trying to find one?
                    You will never, in your life, have a chance like this again.
                    If I were you, I would not pass this up. I would not let this go by...this is rare.
                    Come on...what harm??

                    joefrank64k 251/251 100% iTrader?

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                    • #11
                      Father Ted
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 889

                      Probably harder to find than the rifle. I remember seeing some great pics of British soldiers with Enfields mounted on bicycles and motorcycles during ww1. Looks so cool.
                      Cheers

                      Ps here's the head badge on my BSA bicycle.
                      Last edited by Father Ted; 05-16-2014, 9:04 AM.
                      "The answer to 1984 is 1776!" - Mahatma Gandhi

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                      • #12
                        joefrank64k
                        @ the Dark End of the Bar
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 10124

                        Nice BSA ^, FT!

                        Uh-oh...what do they say the first step in collecting is? Something about before you buy guns, buy books???

                        Look what the UPS guy just dropped off...

                        You will never, in your life, have a chance like this again.
                        If I were you, I would not pass this up. I would not let this go by...this is rare.
                        Come on...what harm??

                        joefrank64k 251/251 100% iTrader?

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                        • #13
                          Jeff L
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1219

                          Very cool. I found one at my grandparent's house back east when I was a kid. Not sure where it is now. My dad said it use to give him powder burns.
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                          • #14
                            joefrank64k
                            @ the Dark End of the Bar
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 10124

                            Originally posted by Jeff L
                            Very cool. I found one at my grandparent's house back east when I was a kid. Not sure where it is now. My dad said it use to give him powder burns.

                            Powder burns! I love it. I'll have to wear Nomex gloves to plink with it.
                            You will never, in your life, have a chance like this again.
                            If I were you, I would not pass this up. I would not let this go by...this is rare.
                            Come on...what harm??

                            joefrank64k 251/251 100% iTrader?

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                            • #15
                              Enfield47
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 6385

                              It's a pretty cool little rifle, and it sure is an oddity.

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