1891 argentine mauser, Legality Questions!?

[MauserMike]

Alright got some pics finally, bad lighting, basic camera, no stickman skills. but it shows at least most of the wood is so shiny you can see reflections... On one side of the magazine well there is what looks like rust that has been removed, and whatever removed it took a bit of the blueing. There are two pressure dings in the bottom of the stock, thats the worst of it really, action could be eaten off of, bolt handle is a little dark from use, there are two small chips in the wood aswell below the action on the right side small as a pea, and all the way up front theres one smaller even were the wood meets the metal. and you can see the hairline crack in the top handguard.

[Enfield47]

That's a definite keeper, I wouldn't sell it unless you absolutely had to. If you do and later try to find a replacement, you may not find one as nice very easily.

[SMarquez]

So is Pala gone for good? Are there any options for another operator to come in and take over? What was the final deal breaker in the whole deal?

[Tinknocker]

I wish I never sold the one I had.

[knucklehead0202]

Not the best or worst one I've ever seen but definitely decent. I'd buy it for the right price.

[MauserMike]

Thanks for the input, yeah i forgot a little about some of the dings/dents and the magazine well old rust spot.

It would be hard for me to let go of it, and it would be hard for someone to pay so much when you could probably get one almost just as nice for cheaper.

as for 500 obo, still stands, but rather to find out what someone would be willing to pay for something like this one.

time to get the rest of the reloading equipment and just have some fun every now and then with this mauser i think.

If i was a hunter i would totally try and bag a deer with the irons its def accurate enough! I was told the 1891 was sporterized so much because its a great deer cartridge and the actions on these things are so glassy nice. kinda wish i had a nice sporterized one in a more common caliber, will the small reciever of these mousers handle 30-06? i know i saw a kid turn one into a sinle shot hand feed 45-70 and used lower power handloads and cast boolits.

[MauserMike]

So is Pala gone for good? Are there any options for another operator to come in and take over? What was the final deal breaker in the whole deal?

Yeah the council made up some sort of legality clause for insurance, something like that, iam sure its got deep rooted self interest for the indians, maybe someone made them an offer to do something with the land that palaraceway couldnt compete with, so they shut our power off, made us try and re-instate our insurance policy with different things in it that the pala raceway owners were not able to accomodate.

Iam sure its all about more money/greed pala raceway brought so much business to that area. and i heard the pala shooting range is "under fire" from the mission band of indians as well, but police and armed forces use that facility big time so they have more pull and has been there much longer.

Not sure if anyone wants to try and bring it back, i imagine if the Indians want more money for the land use it wouldnt be possible to open back up, that place was always hangin by a thread anyway.

[Mustang]

time to get the rest of the reloading equipment and just have some fun every now and then with this mauser i think.

If i was a hunter i would totally try and bag a deer with the irons its def accurate enough! I was told the 1891 was sporterized so much because its a great deer cartridge and the actions on these things are so glassy nice. kinda wish i had a nice sporterized one in a more common caliber, will the small reciever of these mousers handle 30-06? i know i saw a kid turn one into a sinle shot hand feed 45-70 and used lower power handloads and cast boolits.

I love the 7.65x53 cartridge...it is almost identical to the .308 Winchester, but with a .311 bullet. I sometimes wonder why Nato didn't just neck the 7.65 x 53 down to .308 and get on with it.

That being said, I would not consider rechambering a 1891 to 30.06. I have a 1909 Argentine Mauser that was rechambered to 30.06 (it was common back in the day). The barrel is still a .311 and the accuracy suffers as a result.

The 7.65 x 53 should be adequate for most game in California and is plenty accurate. Here is a picture of a target that I shot with my scoped '09 still in 7.65 chambering...a '91 could probably do as well.

174 gr SMK @ 100 yards...about an inch group, which is typical for this rifle.



I had two 91 sporters that I sold recently. They are out there and are fairly cheap...I didn't get much for mine.

[MauserMike]

I have sort of decided to keep the 1891, unless something happens and i really need the money.

Love how the argy shoots except for how sharp the stock is at the top line were you cheek weld, after shooting a few my cheek is bright red and just about bruising! knucklehead0202 sugjested just try different cheek welds and shooting stances untill it doesnt bite my cheek. will have to get some ammo before i can test that out

[Mustang]

You can try various cheek pads...

I use lace on cheek pads on some of my scoped rifles...



but that is mainly to get a better cheek weld with the scopes.

You could try the "Cheek eez"

http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/stock-forend-parts/butt-plate-parts/cheek-pieces-palm-swells/cheekeeze-prod15486.aspx

[knucklehead0202]

Another shooting comfort issue I've noted with the straight-stock rifles is laying your trigger-hand thumb along the side of the stock instead of wrapping around it. After hitting myself in the nose with my thumb a bunch of times I developed a slightly different hold. Only problem with it is that I tend to do it with other rifles and my enfield smacked my thumb with the bolt knob. Since it's a jungle carbine, recoil is kinda stiff and so was the whack on the thumb! Different rifles require different holds, all part of the adventure with these old girls, but how I love them!

[thenodnarb]

You can try various cheek pads...

I use lace on cheek pads on some of my scoped rifles...

The problem with a cheek piece is that it will make it difficult(impossible) to line up the sights. They are perfect for a scope though.

OP, The key is definitely changing your cheek weld. Try tilting your head forward to get your eye lower without pressing hard against the stock with your cheek bone.

[Mustang]

The problem with a cheek piece is that it will make it difficult(impossible) to line up the sights. They are perfect for a scope though.

OP, The key is definitely changing your cheek weld. Try tilting your head forward to get your eye lower without pressing hard against the stock with your cheek bone.

The lace on pads are definitely for scope use. The cheek eez comes in 1/16 and 1/8 inch thickness. Could probably use the sights with something that thin.

http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/stock-forend-parts/butt-plate-parts/cheek-pieces-palm-swells/cheekeeze-prod15486.aspx