Purchasing question

[SFCRangerDoc]

So I'm aware of the fact that you can buy pre 1900's weapons (black powder originals and reproductions) w/out having to DROS, etc...cash and carry baby!

Question I have is this...does it apply to pre-1900's era cartridge weapons as well or is that restricted ONLY to black powder.

[Capybara]

Any pre-1900 is considered an antique. The law is written to specify antiques, not just BP.

[SFCRangerDoc]

Any pre-1900 is considered an antique. The law is written to specify antiques, not just BP.

Nice, so just to be clear...if i were to come across a smith and wesson lemon squeezer breaktop it counts as long as the design was first produced before 1900? and if so I could meet up, hand cash over and walk away with a shiny new toy?

Ive been jonesing for a 32 or 38 Safety Hammerless

[Mustang]

So I'm aware of the fact that you can buy pre 1900's weapons (black powder originals and reproductions) w/out having to DROS, etc...cash and carry baby!

Any pre-1900 is considered an antique. The law is written to specify antiques, not just BP.

This is incorrect. Weapons that are pre-1899 are considered antiques. A small, but important difference.

[SFCRangerDoc]

This is incorrect. Weapons that are pre-1899 are considered antiques. A small, but important difference.

True...very good point...

My question still stands though, if its pre 1899 and cartridge im 100% gtg for a cash and carry purchase? Internet buy as well?

[Father Ted]

Very important^^

[Father Ted]

Cartridge as well just as long as it qualifies for antique. Some Internet sellers will ship to you, but I've noticed that some still want to ship to an ffl, whether or not that is just their standard wording that they forgot to delete or they are being beyond careful can be puzzling. I've also seen 1899 & 1900 rifles being sold as antique and no ffl required. Clearly a mistake but I've always wondered if I hit the button would it still show up on my doorstep?
Cheers

[SFCRangerDoc]

Cartridge as well just as long as it qualifies for antique. Some Internet sellers will ship to you, but I've noticed that some still want to ship to an ffl, whether or not that is just their standard wording that they forgot to delete or they are being beyond careful can be puzzling. I've also seen 1899 & 1900 rifles being sold as antique and no ffl required. Clearly a mistake but I've always wondered if I hit the button would it still show up on my doorstep?
Cheers

Thanks for the info!! much appreciated

[SFCRangerDoc]

For readers not familliar with this I'm reposting this link i was sent by a friend:

http://www.atf.gov/content/what-qualifies-antique-firearm

[Capybara]

Good catch, pre-1899, not 1900.

[Just.a.guy]

For readers not familliar with this I'm reposting this link i was sent by a friend:

http://www.atf.gov/content/what-qual...ntique-firearm

Can I get at least a little credit here, gosh. I went all the way to google for that, and now you're posting it all willy-nilly, with no respect for the original source who sent you the page? This is what's wrong with kids these days.

[Pthfndr]

Nice, so just to be clear...if i were to come across a smith and wesson lemon squeezer breaktop it counts as long as the design was first produced before 1900? and if so I could meet up, hand cash over and walk away with a shiny new toy?

Ive been jonesing for a 32 or 38 Safety Hammerless

It has nothing to do with when it was designed, it's when it was made. For example, if a particular firearm was first made in 1895 then it's considered an antique. But if production of the exact same firearm continued to 1901, one made in 1901 is not considered an antique. Stupid, but that's the way it is.

[Mustang]

It has nothing to do with when it was designed, it's when it was made. For example, if a particular firearm was first made in 1895 then it's considered an antique. But if production of the exact same firearm continued to 1901, one made in 1901 is not considered an antique. Stupid, but that's the way it is.

Exactly what pthfinder said...I have examples of 1891 Argentine Mausers...otherwise identical, except one was made before 1899:



And one was made in 1902:



One is an antique and one is not.