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  • Saigon1965
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Nov 2003
    • 17276

    Ivories -

    Gentlemen - Sad days are ahead - Soon to be banned from interstate trading -


    Please show your Ivories -










  • #2
    Capybara
    CGSSA Coordinator
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2012
    • 15277

    Nice pistol. Nice grips.
    NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor, Shotgun Instructor and Range Safety Officer

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    • #3
      pitfighter
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 3141

      Lovely revolvers, grips look great -
      Beautiful in fact - if that word can be used for a grip/gun combination.

      -

      That said - the only thing in Africa I'd like to hunt down and kill are elephant poachers.
      I know the grips for these were likely made half a century ago, but, I understand where this law comes from - flame away.

      Pit.
      Pitfighter.
      CA/AZ

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      • #4
        Nick Justice
        Senior Member
        • May 2010
        • 1985

        Ebony and Ivor...oh wait..plastic, live together in....
        It doesn't matter how scary, ugly, uncomfortable, or inconvenient self defense can be. Like it or not, you will never, ever be relieved of your duty and responsibility to defend your life, your family, your country and your freedom.

        How much ammo do I need? Enough to last me the rest of my life, and then lot more for later.

        The government does not come knocking at your door. It comes knocking down your door.

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        • #5
          Saigon1965
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Nov 2003
          • 17276

          The set on the Python is quite old - It was on an old Officers Model Match -

          The set on the Pre 27 was from Patrick Grasshorn -

          They are to me beautiful -

          But times have changed...

          Originally posted by pitfighter
          Lovely revolvers, grips look great -
          Beautiful in fact - if that word can be used for a grip/gun combination.

          -

          That said - the only thing in Africa I'd like to hunt down and kill are elephant poachers.
          I know the grips for these were likely made half a century ago, but, I understand where this law comes from - flame away.

          Pit.

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          • #6
            pitfighter
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2009
            • 3141

            That python/grip combo is breath-taking, Saigon!

            The 27 is a stunner, too - but the Python with a 2" barrel is just killer.
            Neither one looks like the cylinder has ever been turned!

            Thanks for sharing the pics, you're absolutely right they are from another time, but nonetheless attractive for it.

            My earlier comment reads as a bit classless, I apologize.
            Pitfighter.
            CA/AZ

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            • #7
              Spyder
              CGN Contributor
              • Mar 2008
              • 16993

              Originally posted by pitfighter
              My earlier comment reads as a bit classless, I apologize.
              No apologies needed for true feelings from the heart!

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              • #8
                16in50calNavalRifle
                Senior Member
                • May 2009
                • 544

                Pit, the situation might have changed, but back during the last big ivory-banfest (late 80s), it was like this: herds in South Africa and Botswana were well-managed thriving and protected, plenty of ivory harvested from naturally expired pachyderms or during herd management; disaster in Kenya/Tanzania due to the usual ills and an upsurge in Somali poachers (extremely crafty and tough operators). Was in a meeting with the then-Kenyan minister of national parks and he viewed the burning of the captured contraband ivories and the campaign as pretty lame, but unavoidable (he was the son of the famous anthropologist who discovered Lucy in Olduvai Gorge).

                Anyway, unless SA/Botswana have gone off the rails (quite possible in the former case, sadly), the ivory bans have little relationship to the preservation of African elephants as a whole, as opposed to specific herds in poorly governed countries.

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                • #9
                  Garand1911
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 1443

                  Instead of burning all the poached ivory thats been seized, they should just sell it legally. Drop the market value and use the funds to stop poaching and protect the elephants. The chinese middle class are still going to do what they can to get the stuff.
                  Making it fully illegal just creates more criminals out of normal people.
                  Banning the sale wont stop the poaching either.

                  The legal farming and harvesting of endangered animals might actually save them.
                  "I saved your life, AND brought you pizza" -- Me

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                  • #10
                    thedrickel
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 5573

                    I hate people that are full of hate.

                    It's not illegal to tip for PPT!

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                    • #11
                      zoid52
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 783

                      Water Buffalo grips are awesome. I bought some from eagle grips about 10 years ago. I wonder how they are harvested?
                      CALIFORNIA-IF THERES NOT A LAW AGAINST IT THERES A TAX ON IT

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                      • #12
                        pitfighter
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 3141

                        Originally posted by 16in50calNavalRifle
                        Pit, the situation might have changed, but back during the last big ivory-banfest (late 80s), it was like this: herds in South Africa and Botswana were well-managed thriving and protected, plenty of ivory harvested from naturally expired pachyderms or during herd management; disaster in Kenya/Tanzania due to the usual ills and an upsurge in Somali poachers (extremely crafty and tough operators). Was in a meeting with the then-Kenyan minister of national parks and he viewed the burning of the captured contraband ivories and the campaign as pretty lame, but unavoidable (he was the son of the famous anthropologist who discovered Lucy in Olduvai Gorge).

                        Anyway, unless SA/Botswana have gone off the rails (quite possible in the former case, sadly), the ivory bans have little relationship to the preservation of African elephants as a whole, as opposed to specific herds in poorly governed countries.
                        Thank you - that is solid info.
                        My reasons for posting that sentence are personal, and not for posting in a public forum - sorry to have swayed the thread off course -
                        I guess the subject of ivory is an interesting one - and has provoked informed conversation which is always good.

                        I think it's time for pics of ivory gripped pistols, now.
                        Let's see the water buffalo grips - fabulous creatures worked with them in Thailand, towing farm carts.
                        Last edited by pitfighter; 04-08-2014, 11:35 AM.
                        Pitfighter.
                        CA/AZ

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                        • #13
                          Saigon1965
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 17276

                          Thank you all for your perspectives - I do value them -

                          @Pit - No apoligies are needed - We are amongst friends - I am sorry for your loss -

                          @16in50 - Thank you for the insight -

                          @Zoid52 - Picture for you below - Taken outside Hanoi circa 1993

                          I've been offered illegal ivories and always walked away - I don't like the upcoming law much but will respect it -


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